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Off the original topic, but.... If anyone in engineering is looking for a job in Scotland, there is a fair old recruitment drive going on in Aberdeen - and in the Oil & Gas industry in general. Most of the big companies seem to be looking for engineers, techs, co-ords, admin etc. They can't fill the spaces with experienced personnel as there are more jobs than people, so they are looking for those with transferable skills from other technical disciplines. There's also loads of places associated with O&G in the central belt. FMC in Belshill have held two recruitment days in the past few months alone. S1Jobs, Monster etc are crap, go to open days or send CVs etc direct to companies. HTH

How do you plan on laying it all out? Sellotape to the seat base, to the back of the seat in front? A big display will look as cool as tits but I'd hate to be the guy setting out 10000+ bits of card! Will be heavy as fuck too. Good effort for doing it though

Try the alibaba website. You might be able to get a Chinese or Indian wholesaler to sell you plain coloured card cheaper than a local printer here, especially if you're looking at say, 10,000 each of claret (burgundy) and amber (gold/yellow).

Christ, that was some rant I had this morning! I was still steamin' from last night! Still meant what I said though, they're a bunch of c***s.

Florida Park pub, about 12.15-12.30ish, everyone was having a decent time of it. St J's fans and 'Well fans singing away, mingling well together and it seemed like it was all going to go down treat. From nowhere and for no reason all the nonces started scrapping. Tumblers flew, tables and chairs were launched and it all got a bit ugly. No idea what kicked it off, if anything actually did. I reckon they came in, went berserk for no reason then legged it cause they're actually scared of the results of their actions. They continually get done in off the other casuals around Scotland so it seems they've taken to turning up at the smaller games and attacking people who can't fight back. Kids, women, old folk and people with walking sticks, people in wheel chairs.... doesn't matter to these guys. As long as you can't fight back you're a target for them.

A message to the so called hard men.... You horrible little Stone Island rip-off wearing, post adolescent losers, why don't you just fuck off and wank off each other in private, you bunch of small cocked, tiny brained irritable little inhumane mongos. "Look at me, I'm a 35 year old loser who likes to fuck little boys in the bottom while I hit defenseless people as I pretend I'm a hard man". Hanging about with 15 year olds like you're looking for appreciation from a lower species for still managing to breathe, you degenerate c***s. Stoating into a pub that has kids, women, disabled people in wheelchairs and OAP's, throwing some glasses around like you're some sort of Franko Begbie wannabe doesn't make you a legend, it makes you look like a fucking tool. If you want to be part of a gang then fuck off and stick your dicks in each other's asses in some gay porn films, at least that'll keep you occupied for a while and out all the decent fan's ways, you scumbag twats. Just because you're mum didn't love you, you're dad beat the shit out of you 'cause you were the bain of everyone's life, or because your budgie turned into a smackhead doesn't mean that it's ok for you to ruin everyone else's good fun in anger. And to the small thrash that I tripped up on the train for being a fud, I hope you're face hurts this morning you little c**t. Rant over. Sorry, didn't mean to offend but I'm boiling at these twats. My 59 year old dad nearly got it in the chops as a result of the pretend casual crew and I'm slightly angry about it.

Guy behind me picking up tickets before the game was scouting for Derby. Asked who he was here to look at but he wouldn't say.

A hard one to be fair, but Scotland for me. Maybe because I lived away from Motherwell for years and didn't follow them as much due to the internets being non existant at the time and the papers being full of old firm pish. I think the fact that people are on a Motherwel fan site, its pretty obvious whats going to get the highest votes on here. Maybe the poll would be different if the question was asked outside FP.

That makes some good points. I like how Barca say Real Madrid have a similar set up but don't use it! Obviously we're not going to have enough money to run anything remotely like La Masia, but encouraging our youths to have the same values and mind set from a young age shouldn't be dismissed. You could never imagine Xavi having to make the "play fitba or become a ned?" decision when he was young can you?! As for the first team, we could use students of Sports Science, Sports Phsychology, Nutritionists etc to help out. A student would love to have an SPL team on their projects or on their CV when they go looking for work and we could get the benefit of cheap/free info and input. A club with a squad as small as ours should be keeping our key players at the top of their game for the full season. I reckon we could take advantage of other team's lack of fitness towards the end of a season if we were fitter than them.

Ya. Fuckin. Dancer!

Might add BTW, that there are players at Motherwell who DO take it all seriously. And you can see it in tehm during a game. When Mark Reynolds was here, he used to go to circuit training at Wishaw sports centre twice a week and pay a few quid a week of his own money to do it! Pretty sure he was T-total too.

See, you can if it inflicts on your performance of your job. If you're a train driver and you turn up for work hungover you get the boot. If you're in the forces and you fail your fitness test after a certain number of attempts cause you're too fat through eating kebabs and boozing all the time you get booted out. If you get paid to be a footballer then you should be at the peak of your fitness cause its your job. People pay good money and expect you to be as good as you possibly can be, not running at 80% of your peak fitness just cause you don't feel like it. The England rugby team have a set fitness test and I reckon that a few of the 'Well team would fail it. Its something like level 15 on the Beep test, 100m in under 12secs and set numbers of burpees, pressups, sit ups etc each in a minute. FFS, there's people down the local gym fitter than some SPL players and these people PAY to do it in their own time! I know it sounds like I'm moaning, but as has been stated by others above, it seems that Scottish players and teams have a half-arsed attitude to fitness and training. I think if we were fitter than other teams in the league we could attack harder and faster in the opening stages of a game and not be blowing out our arses towards the end. Or we could take advantage of other teams tiring and capitalise on their diminishing pace etc. How many times do you see players losing the ball then not chasing it back or closing down the opposing players cause they're fucked? Intesresting to hear from Cooper_no1 that it's common place among other teams, but that foreigners have a completely different attitude. I understand that they are schooled from a young age about everything to do with football and whats expected of you, but the general attitude could surely be instilled by our youth set ups? I'd fuckin love a job where I got paid a decent wage to do something I loved, for 10hrs a week and I'd put every ounce of effort into rewarding my employers (and as such, the fans too) for it.

A Rangers fan mate of mine has a bit of an insight into Murray Park and he was saying the other day that the 1st team train for 2-4hrs (from 10am til either 12 or 2pm) and then they get the use of the other facilities ie gym, conditioning suite, physios etc if they feel like it. He says most of them use the facilities in this time, but there a few who bugger off home (Lafferty used to do it all the time, as did Beattie) and don't return 'til the next session. He was in the main hall they have (an indoor full size 3G pitch like Ravenscraig) and watched some of the youth team playing table tennis while the rest lay about chatting, not exactly a strenuous workout! We spoke about the Paul LeGuen thing where he was shocked at the diet, fitness standards and general attitude of the Reangers team at the time. This reminded me of the time when I was at FP during the day to get some tickets a couple of years ago, I left my Papa sitting waiting in the car and when I got back in he told me "Three young Motherwell players in their tracksuits just came out that wee shop eating pies and then sauntered up into Fir Park". I said it must've been other folk who happened to be wearing 'Well colours, but he was adament. We see and hear about the top teams in the EPL etc having dedicated nutritionists, chefs, personal fitness instructors, morning and afternoon sessions, pool and aerobic and pilates session et al, yet in Scotland we have managers who face a backlash from players who don't like being told what to eat, when to train or getting their sundays disturbed etc. We also see first hand players out on the town getting smashed (Cragg's night in Daniels, 'Well players in Angels, casinos etc), not to mention the daily rag's reports on players out in clubs getting into fights all the time. So, does anyone have an insight into what our players actually get paid for? Do they train for a few hours a day? Do they vary their training between fitness and skills/teamwork, tactics etc or are they expected to do their own fitness? I don't want to single any players out, but its fairly easy to spot those who run out of steam after 65-70mins every week. I just think that if you're being paid c£1000/week to do something you love every day, then it wouldn't hurt to actually take it fully seriously and be as fit as you possibly can be.

Without any current left sided midfielder we'd be as well giving Casagolda a chance up front with big John and pushing Murphy back to left-mid, even just for the first half of the Hibs game to see how it goes against a poor defence. I can't see how Casagolda could be any worse as a striker than Forbes is as a left-mid (and thats not a dig at Forbes, I don't think he was too bad as a central midfielder under JG but out on the left he's useless).

And the SFA/SPL let teams get into debt for as long as they want, or at least as long as they can afford to keep up the minimum payments.... but when they eventually do, and some definitely will, go into administration, the same governing bodies screw the arse even further out the club by punishing them with almost certain relegation. The sheep are allowed to do whatever they want while they're £12m in debt, 'cause that cock womble Milne's got £400m in the bank. But if he decides to jack it in or curb his input (his business was reportedly losing money hand over fist), they're royally fucked right in the botty. Boyle's had his fingers burned before, he knows he can't push us into debt agin only to then have to bail us out. Youth system..... its the future!

Yep. 'Could' be, though, not would be.

This is how I see it, totally deliberate from CB. Craig Brown to John Boyle: "John, gonny gies some cash tae hodd on tae big Nick and fur a couple a new players in January?" JB: "Naw Craig, sorry, we huvvny got much in the kitty" CB: "Fine then. Me and Erchy are away tae talk tae the Sheep aboot the job up ther" JB: "Aye, right then Craig. So'n ye are" Couple of hours later..... JB:The auld bastards, thuv only went and spoke tae the c***s..... "Haw Craig, 'mere a wee minute, ah've fun some copers doon the back ae the couch fur ye tae spend in January if ye promise us yies'll stay" CB (sniggering to himself on a job well done...) :"Awwww, cheers John, that'd be luvvly" I'll probably be totally wrong on this, but I think CB is a lot more cunning than his demeanor would suggest. This is a good thing.

"Hateley's free kicks are pish" seconds before the pearler against the H*n folk. "He'll never score another one like that one against Rangers. See! Rubbish!" Against Odense away, in the dying minutes, before and during the free-kick that had to be re-taken, then he obviously nailed said re-take. To be honest I'm quite glad I said those, because if I hadn't, sod's law says he would've ballooned them over! Also, on a non-footballing note, "WATCH THIS!!!!" seconds before attempting anything that you think will be spectacularly brilliant. Has ended in countless falls, broken bottles, slaps in face, sare backs and amongst many more epic fails, three written off cars for me

Today's Daily Record match report form our game was almost entirely based around Thomson's incompetence. Suggested he was wrong not to send off Canning and was blind by missing the handball which, had he seen, would have resulted in Imrie also leaving the pitch. They then go on to score him 7/10 It seems like the journos are trying their best to calm the reffing storm thats accumulating. They also give Iain Brines a 7/10 for the H*ns game despite reporting that he should have sent off McCulloch and Foran. If the SPL/SFA official assessing Thomson isn't required to display his results and reasons to the public, then these crap refs are just going to keep plodding on, getting decent matches to ref while ballsing up more often. They're clearly not getting the training/coaching/criticism from the right places. I see that a bad score for a ref is deemed a "7.9". What the fuck do they have to do get to that score? Its only 2.1 away from perfect! Very rarely should a SPL ref ever get above a 7 in my eyes. Its almost like saying "they're all shit, so lets just lower our expectations of them and raise their scores accordingly". BTW, I don't think Thomson lost us the game. We did that with our shit performance and CB's tactics/player choice. But Thomson had his part to play in it also.

You're right, there's nothing in the statement about a change of stadium. Most of the chat regarding a new stadium was posted before the official statement was released and was based on Andy Devlin saying "Future plans could include a move away from the club's Fir Park home to the new Ravenscraig site". Granted he's a journo and may well be full of shite, but its the interweb and we like to dream!

Putting my neck on the line here but.... I've heard from someone who works in the college that Boyle was offered to combine the sale of Fir Park with the sale of the old college site 5-6 years ago, before the credit crunch, when the money on offer for a joint sale was considerable. The buyers of the old college supposedly wanted to build a much larger housing estate which would've encompassed where Fir Park currently sits. Apparently he turned it down thinking that we wouldn't need to move as we don't have a fan base big enough to warrant a move and the money wouldn't have given us profit after the new stadium was built. The other allegation is that all non-domestic sites at the 'craig are taken, so there may be nowhere for us to buy. The industrial sites earmarked are being delayed due to the world's financial climate and business's current reluctance to spend. As I say, this is just gossip, but from a source who should know what he's on about. But hopefully it is just speculation and our dreams of a new Scandanavian style ground and a new financial direction are realised I've prepared for a flaming if, in two days time, its proved to be a load of shite

A new stadium two seconds walk from my flat will be ideal. But not if its a "my first Lego football stadium". That would be absolutely dire Something that will look good against the landscape and give us the possibility of a good atmosphere. They could have the floodlights built in to four Ravenscraig 'cooling tower-esque' structures at each corner!!

"It's understood Motherwell want to become the first Trust-backed self-sufficient club in Britain." Could any financial experts on here elaborate on this please? I've only ever heard of supporter's/fan's trusts, usually a way of fans buying into a share scheme while having a representative on the board. But would it not take a lot more than a fan's trust for the club to be self-sufficient? Is self-sufficient a false term? Forgive my ignorance if the answer is blindingly obvious, I'm no MoneySavingExpert!

Ah, I was just a nipper when all you lot were scuffling round Gorgie way. Thought it would have something to do with fighting, just didn't know if it was the two football teams, or two teams of casuals. Cheers for filling me in, I shall now hate them for a good reason

Whats the history behind most 'Well fan's (on here) hatred of Hearts (or FHW, apparently)? I hate the OF, Accies, Airdrie and Hibs more than FHW. But I think I just dislike Jambos in the same way as I dislike all our other rivals/fans ie Not much love, but no real specific hatred. I've asked loads of my mates who are 'Well fans and have been for plenty years, but no-one can tell me why we hate them, they just say "'Cause we do!" Has something happened in years gone by to make us hate them more than the likes of Utd, Killie, St. Midden etc?