David

I don't think that the likes of us or St Johnstone would be in the thoughts of the decision makers to be honest. They'll likely be more concerned with what happens when Celtic play Hearts, or Hearts play Sevco, or even worse, when Celtic play Sevco.

As has been said, it works in gigs and other places like cinemas, so why not football? I'd guess that at gig prices there wouldn't be many throwing down 4 or 5 pints a game if it were costing them twenty odd quid to do so.

All of his success was a fluke then, eh?

Absolute conjecture though, isn't it? You don't know anything of the sort. What it suggests is that the whole notion of Baraclough being the easy, cheaper option is possibly wide of the mark, especially given the fact that we've seen considerable investment in the team since he's arrived.

Exactly. Which maybe suggests that the idea of him being knocked back because he wanted to change too much is nothing but nonsense.

I actually believe the opposite to be true. We have fans who have watched us perform very well in recent years (although most of them still moaned like fuck) and who now cannot accept the fact that we're not really very good at the moment. We are mediocre just now, but again, I don't know a single person who accepts it. Not one. No one I know likes it. At all. Trust me mate, I'm no superfan. I neither own a fleece (be it Motherwell-related or otherwise) nor am I on any committee. I'm simply a fan of the club who thinks that a new manager (especially given the circumstances he's arrived into) should be given some time to do his job. We've just seen a new owner come in and he's went above & beyond what I thought he would in the transfer window. The new boys are just in the door. I think they deserve a bit of time to get it together. Certainly more than the 45 minutes or so it took for you to start losing the rag. Again, not superfan, more like "reasonable fan". Okay, what do you think we should do then? Bump Baraclough and his new assistant who's been here for a matter of hours? Rip up the plan we had, take a hit on the fact that we've brought in a load of players that he wanted and just start again with someone new? Aye, "probably" first choice. That's neither here nor there. We've got a new manager in place, he's just been given the backing to get some of his own players in. let's see how he does, shall we? At least give them more than 90 minutes maybe?

What do you mean by "accept"? From what I've seen and from what I've heard talking to fellow fans no one is "accepting" anything. We just aren't being irrational and looking for all and sundry to be sacked and replaced is all. It would be a completely different situation if the manager had been in charge for the duration of the season, but he hasn't. He's only just managed to get some of his own players in (and his own assistant probably hasn't even got his initials sown onto his jacket yet), so lets see how that goes, eh?

Let's hope they aren't quite as kneejerk and ridiculous as some on this forum who also have no experience then, shall we?

My excuse? There is no excuse. There's a reason though, and that reason is that we're shite. There are three pretty dire sides in this league at the moment, and we're one of them. Okay, so we lose this game, get to Monday and sack Baraclough (along with his assistant who will have been here for all of what? 48 hours or something?). What then? Who do we put in charge in the interim? What do we do with the players that Baraclough has identified as guys that he wanted and just brought in? Do we give the new assistant the job during the time it takes to restart the search for a new guy? Or do we simply go to MVDG and say "aye Mitch, ye were second choice, but fuck it, ye want the job now big man?" If he says yes he comes into a squad of players that hardly know each other, and a load of new players that were identified by the previous manager and who may not even factor into how he wants to play. A bit like the guys that Baraclough inherited from McCall. Going down that road would pretty much increase our chances of relegation in my opinion. The alternative? Give the new guy some time. I don't mean 9 or 10 games after he inherited a load of shite that was already looking doomed, I mean a proper amount of time to do his job. He's been given the backing to bring in some new players, some of which actually look exciting and of a decent calibre. Here's a novel idea. Support the team and the manager and let's see what he's capable of. I swear to God, we must have some of the shittest fans in the fucking league. We were moaning like fuck when we were sitting 3rd in the table, moaning like fuck when we were qualifying for Europe regularly, moaning like fuck when we had no money, moaning like fuck about the Well Society and fan ownership, and now we're moaning like fuck despite the new owner putting his hand in his pocket and drafting in some exciting young players to try and help us out of a bind, all because they aren't getting the job done in the first game they've played together.

That's exactly what I mean. The idea of some sort of committee running our club, especially if those on that committee are anything like some people on this forum really does give me the fear. We'd be sacking managers and tearing up contracts right, left & centre.

If said Motherwell fans are the type of business people who would get shot of a manager mere weeks after him coming into a job that is always going to be difficult then the chances are they wouldn't be very successful, yes. Especially when he's only just got some of his own personnel through the door. By your thinking the new manager should have brought a whole load of new faces into a squad in January, trained them for two weeks and have them all gelled and firing on all cylinders 45 minutes into their first match. Don't get me wrong, it would have been ideal if that were the case, but you can hardly look at it not being the case as a sign that he doesn't know the basics. I'm not actually sure what some fans are wanting to happen here. We're shite. We're in a relegation battle. There's no quick fix to this situation. I doubt Pep Guardiola could get us playing well at the moment.

As long as said fans aren't anything like the ones who post on this forum. We'd be sacking managers every few weeks if recent chat is anything to go by.

So, the new owner gives the new manager a load of new players in the January window, but because we're not off and running by half-time in the first game it's jacket on a shaky peg time? Seriously? I really am glad that fans don't actually run football clubs, and instead leave it to proper businessmen and people who know how to actually do the job.

I'll tell you what, just seeing that still there from the video with the new manager and the new players all lined up fills me with confidence that we're at least making a fist of working our way out of this shite. Onwards & upwards!

Aye, and apparently they had high hopes for him until he suffered a fractured tibia and fibula in 2012.

Wee Dan is a decent back up keeper, nothing more really.

He did, which makes me think that he's realised that any plans he has for the club moving forward requires us to be an SPFL team next season and has moved to make funds available for short-term loans to see us through to the end of the season. At that point we'll see a whole host of guys out of contract, and there'll be more room for maneuvre by the manager.

Baraclough out!

New guy sent off as well!??!

1-0 down already. Maybe I don't want to hear it anyway

Anyone know if the BBC still do commentary for individual games? I haven't listened to them for a while, but can't find the option to listen to our game rather than the league cup semi-final.

I know this is doing the rounds on social media, but I thought I'd post it here nonetheless;

Because he's a wind up merchant most likely.

I wonder why big Jim Traynor didn't apply for the media job. That's the gig he had with the blue bigots, wasn't it?

I was more meaning the area outside the stadium. We've seen games cancelled because of the conditions being considered dangerous for fans on their way to games, haven't we?