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I don't see why you should drag his sex life into it. I know - jaiket, taxi, etc.

Sorry to hear of your loss. Our thoughts are with you and your family. There will be a glass raised tonight.

He isn't unemployed though, he's Sunderland's chief scout.

That's correct. He was a coach before he was caretaker manager and if I mind right he was chief scout afterwards. Niall Quinn and the board needed to replace him but they and the fans were delighted with the job that he'd done as Caretaker. I worked beside a Makem at the time but I can't quite remember his assorted sleverings.

Now you're just being rational. I was only looking to murder bureaucrats, not validate my wish to do so.

Too many?

I agree that the number of paper-pushers that run the game is ridiculous and my solution is a bit difficult to put into words but imagine the Russians overwhelming the Reichstag and you won't be far off.

I would hate to think so because it's Motherwell - home of Motherwell F.C. and where Motherwell F.C. play. We retain the moral high ground and if we become intimidated by the glory hunting, bigoted cunts in our own town then we're fucked. I've probably never noticed any snidey looks because I'm too busy looking down my nose at them with thinly veiled disgust. Biffs and mongs, the lot of them.

Nah, it doesn't have to be a straight red. As long as a red is shown to anyone who is playing at the time - being sent off from the bench or in the tunnel afterwards don't count.

It probably would surprise most folk. £500 is hee-haw in this context.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the big-timers were the ones who took the action last night but someone did. £500 isn't even a large bet to a lot of punters - not sure these days but in the WTFC days, the Coupon Time thread had many bets that were for more than that. I'm small-time but if I wanted to lump a £500 bet on, I'd probably look for a new site as they always offer incentives to join up - first bet matched, stake x amount and we'll give you y amount of "free" bets, etc. Even outwith that, the new account could have been someone who simply didn't have an existing account with whichever chump was offering 10/1.

The In-Play aspect is part of it as the prices lengthen as the clock ticks down but even then I'd say that 10/1 was a ridiculous price to be offering. They can't be running about crying if they were daft enough to be laying at that price. Again, assuming that I've followed this properly.... and that there wasn't a scam.

I'm only going by what I've read in this thread but am I right in saying that there were two bets (Liverpool and Manchester) and that they staked £500? If so, and based on the 10/1 that has been quoted here, then I don't see a problem. £500 is buttons to a professional gambler and if 10/1 really was on offer then it represents good value - Craigan, Jennings and Blackman were all on yellows and the referee had shown that he was an incompetent, impetuous buffoon. The new account aspect doesn't ring any alarm bells either - the Pro's are forever opening new accounts because bookies restrict the betting limits of successful accounts to the point that they're of no use to them. If there's anything wrong here, it's that the bookie offered such a ridiculous price, not that people saw the value and took it. Assuming that I've read the thread correctly.

That's it in a nutshell. Tonight was all about his ego and his chance to show off in front of the telly cameras. "Look at me, I'm Ray Liotta oot Goodfellas, no-one messes with me".

Templeton looks like an over-inflated toddler. Hope someone bursts him. EDIT: Scratch that, he's off for Screech - hope someone bursts him.

That power-tripping prick of a ref needs to take a fucking look at himself. All night, it's been a posturing, look-at-me-I'm-in-charge attitude. Fucking wee man syndrome. Bet he's a member of a golf club. Wank.

Because they're bookies and their prices don't solely reflect the actual odds of something happening. They're based entirely on the price they think will be tempting for folk to part with money for and will change depending on where the money goes.

Not Derek Adams for me.

Dirty protest. It's the only dignified way.

Now Judas speaks and Judas says Judas is a Judas prick.

An Alex MacDonald/ Jimmy Sandison dream team would be more welcome.

Aye, that makes more sense. I'm a dunce.

Why have Broon in charge we're playing against the team that he'll become manager of after the game? Daft idea.

The only good thing that could come from Mutley's return would be watching this place meltdown. He's a dirty whore and not the good kind.