Bert the Sailor

Aye blame Mugabi, never touched him and didn’t even look a foul. Madden taking an age to work out if he could get away with giving a penalty for what was clearly nothing.

Or alternatively, us activating a clause in his contract protecting the clubs financial interests. A club that has allowed him to build that platform. Nobody is denying him that move. But we all know they can afford to buy him if they want. Why bend over to Celtic? Gallagher signed the contract with us, clauses and all. Fuck him if he doesn’t like it. The last thing we should be doing is allowing him to walk for free. If they want him, pay for him. It really is that simple. We’re not a bloody charity club.

Not another penny will be spent on PPV until the team sheets come out on match day. If Lamie plays will I fuck be paying.

There is just no defending Lamie. He does that 3-4 times a match. Why he’s even on the pitch is an embarrassment to the coaching staff.

Would normally agree with that sort of post. But last night wasn’t about being street wise. The Lang penalty claim early doors was exactly the same as he gave against Mugabi and sent him off for. In fact Lang was trying to be ‘street smart’ at the start of the game and got zero from the ref. Some of the heavy contact some of our players took and not so much as a foul. The ease of which we were carded for nothing yet there players again escaped punishment for some heavy tackles. Tommy Wright even mentioning that’s good refereeing for not carding the boy, that may be but not when it’s totally inconsistent with the way you’ve ref’d the other side. Sometimes in football the ref just seems to favour the underdog team. Last night was a shocking display from the officials. We can all talk and agree with the standards of our own teams performance 2nd half where I don’t think anyone on here will disagree with. But simply put, there would’ve been no come back last night without two non penalties given against us. The shouts that it was a stonewall penalty at the end because Mugabi got the wrong side are about as wild as I’ve seen on here. You don’t get penalised for being the wrong side. You get penalised for fouling an opponent. Which Big Bevis didn’t do.

The players you mention all went onto better leagues and teams. With the exception of John Sutton who went to Hearts a lot later in his career most likely getting a hefty bump in pay. He wasn’t a world beater and nobody could deny that he should take that move. McKinstry has went to a team that’s looked like promotion contenders each year to reach the English Premiership. So again, these are examples of players showing actual ambition. Thinking that joining Rangers in this day and age is “ambition”? I think that’s where you lose a lot of people. They aren’t what they once were. You’re playing (or not in Hastie’s case) in the same league as Motherwell. The anger would still be there if he went to Hibs or Hearts or Aberdeen. It’s about Rangers and Celtic buying emerging first team talent from the same league and benching them, stinting development. Yes responsibility of these decisions lay with the players as well as those clubs. But people are perfectly entitled to call out these practices. Yes, people are angry because it’s Rangers, that doesn’t make them a bigot like has been mentioned in the past by another poster. Or some angry, irrational fan. They are just sick of the way that the old firm will hoover up young talent from our league and bench or farm them out on loan. Fans are right to call out in my opinion. That being said I’m sure Jake will get more support as the league start nears. People are just desperate to see the team play. A signing like this was always going to split the fans initially, after 4-5 months of no football this situation has probably been amplified a bit more. He’ll still get the support of the majority of the fans that aren’t happy with the saga when he’s on the pitch. Hopefully he comes with the mindset of proving these people wrong. If he screws the head, we’ll have a player on our hands.

Assuming that we end up in the same half as Rangers post split. Before a ball is kicked, not withstanding any injuries, dips in form etc. A player won’t be eligible to play in over 10% of our league matches. That would indicate to me this isn’t a deal that is beneficial to our football club or building a team for the season. Also I am sure Hastie is no doubt good mates with many of the current team. But unfortunately like it or not will not be accepted by most likely at least 50% of the fan base. Just creates a poisonous atmosphere with team mates/ manager having to come out in the media to back their teammate etc. Puts the clubs fans in a bad light in the media and in the ground (whenever the crowds are allowed) etc. Would he improve the squad/ team?Perhaps yes. Worth the baggage? I would say a firm no! Perhaps the club gambling on the fact of a closed door start to the season. If he were to get off to a strong start before crowds are allowed back, it may have softened some people’s stance by then. Ultimately I think its a hard sell for all parties and I don’t think the lad is worthy of the effort.

What a horrible bit of publicity for the club and the manager himself. However with the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise nothing will come of this until the process is complete. But the serious question is, where does the club stand on this issue if he’s found guilty? Is this a sackable offence? With securing our highest sponsorship deal for this season and the profile of being a fan owned family club. Would we be able to morally justify having a manager at the forefront of everything that we do and stand for as a club being found guilty of assaulting his girlfriend? Could be a horrible dilemma for the board come the end of this, potential to effect the rest of the season?

It’s quite simple to fix next game. Cut the allocation and border off the whole front section of the 2nd tier. Anybody tries to stick a flag over the board it’ll be easily removed and won’t put stewards or police at risk with the crowd further back.

Sitting in the crowd wishing the drum would gtf!

Just part of a new social media strategy that’s being tried out no doubt by SO. It’s all very complicated mathes of course. So wouldn’t want to bore your silly little mind about it....

Two votes for Campbell is wild.

Aye cos bringing in players to our club to actually play in our first team is exactly the same as laundering a player through a third party team to avoid paying a fee.

He may not be soley to blame for this. But to exonerate him of any blame here is also far off the mark. Hiding behind blaming agents and owners is far too easy. Turnbull showed that you can politely decline the ‘advice’ given. Cadden has allowed this to happen to a club he has been with for over 10 years. The whole move stinks and he could have quite easily put a stop to it at any time. This shouldn’t be Motherwell’s fight alone. The SFA and SPFL should be involved to protect the interests of Scottish clubs. They want to push Project Brave as the saviour of Scottish football? Well then you’ve got to back your teams.

Crying out for an actual midfielder in the ‘Gorrin’ role. Shoehorning defenders into that role is killing the creativity in the middle.

Yeah, was confirmed on Tuesday that there would be a pay at the gate option.

Although losing Hastie would be a blow. The money we're going to get for Turnbull is gonna build us a new stadium. So it’s all swings and roundabouts really. You win some and you lose some.

To be honest the club would do well to clarify the situation as soon as possible. If he has signed a PCA with Rangers, we’d be as well dropping him. Two fold, players we need to give players like Frear a chance at consecutive games in a formation that finally suits his style of play. Even Cadden to an extent, can he take up that role. See if they are worth the new contract etc. Also Jake is just gonna receive absolute venom from the stands until May from our supporters. I’m not gonna say that’s right, but the lad can’t be stupid into thinking our support is gonna somehow be happy with this decision. He hasn’t helped himself with all the media stuff where he’s said he knows this is the place to be and he wants to stay etc. Should make tomorrow’s game interesting to see what kind of reaction he gets.... So aye, if he has chosen to move elsewhere I actually think it’s the sensible move rather than the toys out the pram approach to leave him out for the remainder of the season (injuries and suspensions aside).

Fantastic gesture and a PR win for the club. However those that can afford it should seriously consider whether they need to take money out our own club to attend the game.

Funny how after the game yesterday and the feel good factor that it brought. That folk are still having a go at Sammon, who played a total of 19 mins in that match. However, I will say you’re entitled to your opinion. Even if that opinion is coming from a complete roaster.

Sorry totally misread this. Actually never received a customer number when I registered on Monday. I am unable to log back into it either now. Very strange.

Josh Law coming to Robinson’s defence: FORMER Motherwell and Oldham player Josh Law has defended his old manager Stephen Robinson after accusations of bullying were made against the Fir Park boss. Danny Byrnes, a 21-year-old footballer who played under Robinson at Oldham, accused the Northern Irishman of victimising him over a period of months and forcing him out of the Boundary Park club in a Twitter post last week, responding to a suicide awareness video featuring Robinson that Motherwell had earlier released. Law, who was in the same squad as Byrnes in the 2016/17 season, was shocked when he saw the post from his former teammate and finds it hard to reconcile the accusations with the man he worked under at both Motherwell and Oldham. “I couldn’t have enjoyed working under Stephen more to be honest,” Law said. “I think he’s a thoroughly decent man and a good bloke. “I saw the tweet and I thought it was a bit strange, because I couldn’t really see that myself. “I was at the club at the same time as Danny and the manager was there, and nothing was said. There was certainly no talk from the players at the time or himself about that sort of stuff. It was a surprise to me to be honest. “It would surprise me massively from my experience with him. He was a family man, and he was a good bloke as far as I’m concerned. “I’ve never really heard anyone speaking badly of him, so it was quite strange.” Law has experienced his fair share of rejection as a footballer, and he has learned not to take it personally when a manager doesn’t rate him or deems him surplus to requirements at a club. And he didn’t see any evidence while at Oldham that Robinson treated any players within his squad any differently from the rest, whether they were part of his plans or not. “At the end of the day, it’s football, and there’s people leaving clubs all the time if the manager doesn’t fancy them as a player,” he said. “I think that’s every day in football to be honest. I’ve been there myself, when the manager doesn’t want you and wants to get you out by offering you a pay up, and it’s horrible. But it’s part of the business. It’s just about keeping your head down and if anything comes up, it comes up. “It’s different for me because I’ve got a family and I’ve got to look after them, and as you get older, you learn that kind of thing. “I certainly didn’t see him in doing double sessions when nobody else was in, which a lot of managers can do. They can make your life hell. But I certainly never saw anything like that going on. “It was probably a case of Danny being in a bad place at the time with his father unfortunately being ill, as he said in the tweet, and he was under stress. He might regret that tweet, I’m not sure, but it’s bad for that to come out for Stephen as well. “it’s obviously something he doesn’t need and is quite unnecessary.” Robinson was only in charge of Oldham from July 2016 until January 2017, when he was sacked with the club languishing near the foot of League One. But Law isn’t surprised to see that he has gone on to have the success he has at Motherwell since. “You could see everything he was trying to do at Oldham and he had his hands tied a little bit,” he said. “I think there was something like 20 new players that he had to bring in. “I think we were starting to turn the corner, but in football now, it is very rare that you get the time and he didn’t there. “All of us could see that his ideas were great though and his knowledge of the game was brilliant. We enjoyed working with him, it was just maybe the wrong club at the wrong time.” Law, for his part, looks back on his own time at Motherwell fondly, even if he didn’t quite manage to live up to the highs of his two-goal debut in a Europa League qualifier against Icelandic side Stjarnan in 2014. “They thought they were getting a 20-goal a season man,” he said. “But I thoroughly enjoyed it, I loved my time up there. “I came home for personal reasons, but I would recommend it to anyone. It’s a great club.”

With Dunne out for 4-6 weeks I’m sure both will start tonight?

I'm in the same boat as a few people on here. I initially put money into the Steel membership at the set up of the Well Society, but since then haven't topped up. I can't ever recall having any Correspondence to do so, I apologise if there is something I've missed. Was the onus on each member to remember to pay the annual top up? As I'll admit to being particularly lazy with this kind of thing. Either way I've set up a monthly direct debit now as well. Just interesting how many of the initial members are out there that could/ should be contacted to try and get them to sign up for the monthly payments.

You the same guy having a meltdown on twitter? Seriously though, there are what? 2500-3000 Season Ticket Holders (?) Even if that was the case of season ticket holders first, there is no guarantee you would've got one either. Yes, its super frustrating not getting a ticket for Ibrox. But there was only 950 tickets, no more negotiating could be done. The game is Thursday and the tickets needed to be sold. People including myself waited outside fir park a minimum of 2-3 hours today for a ticket. So its not as if they didn't deserve a ticket? It also shouldn't come as a surprise that they went on sale today, people were waiting all yesterday for an announcement to which the club confirmed numerous times that they hoped it would be imminent awaiting Rangers response. When the announcement on the Ibrox tickets did come, people flooded to Fir Park which caused long queues and overloaded the staff. Its clear that Rangers were just not for negotiating our allocation. So the club cut their allocation and should be applauded.