steelboy

i dunno about that, hutchison's card was harsh at perth but JOB torpedoed himself into the stand which is probably worth a yellow. i actually thought he was going to do it again after the second and get a red but it looks as if big giles thought the same and made sure he couldn't.

a lot of good performances. craigan was excellent and giles showed why he's a vital player for us but it has to go to o'brien. however i'd still say that performance was an exception and that he'll need to put in a few more before it's worth starting to worry about how we might replace him.

mon the english!

excellent first post. i don't think we'll have much luck targeting guys who go to watch the old firm from motherwell on a regular basis though. i've got mates with season tickets at ibrox and parkhead and they are as commited supporters as we are, they travel and put their hand in their pocket and i doubt anyone who does that is going to countenance changing their allegiance. there are probably 20 OF fans in the area for every one actually attends a match, they'd be a better target but beyond attracting their kids or putting a right good team out i don't really see what we can do. first priority should be to get more well fans attending.

i'm not too worried about him being injury prone, it's likely got something to do with the fact that he's only 18 and is still growing.

i've actually been expecting a thread where all who doubted my wise reading of the situation came on and apologised for their misdeeds and vowed to follow my sure to be correct opinion on 'well related matters in the future. i take it you're just saving it for OSB

that's some backwards logic. if your idea was implemented the club would have the actual money you paid them but would lose out overall. the big winners would be the old firm. motherwell make far more off away fans than we pay out on our travels over the season, every season.

he definiteley treated mcgarry with a lack of respect. up at pittodrie he sent mcgarry and lasley out to warm up after we had used all three subs which seemed like a slap in the face and an attempt to publicly humiliate them just before the transfer window shut.

ruddy hateley craigan reynolds hammell humphrey coke jennings o'brien jutkiewicz murphy just gie us a win. any win.

i'm guessing he wouldn't excuse the guy that did it and try and pin the blame on someone else that he had a grudge against.

it's a terrible idea. how would you distribute the income between the clubs? how would you decide who gets into which away games if a large number of supporters subscribe? how would clubs cope with the reduction in income. there is maybe a bit of scope to reintroduce the reciprocal arrangement we had with other clubs for season tickets but your idea is completely unworkable. btw i hope we are letting hearts fans in for a tenner when we play them at fir park next.

gannon seems like more a cock every time you hear something new about him. always good to be proved right though.

is moore's wife not from muirhouse? sounds like a wise woman anyway, anybody who moves to icestation motherwell the now is aff their heid.

obviously i realise that we have to release boys, it's part of the process. my comments were refering to fans greeting that slane was shafting us when the truth is he owes us nothing. when any player's contract runs out we decide whether he's good enough to be offered a new one and if he's not it's don't let the door hit your arse on the way out time and quite rightly no one gives it a second thought. however when the situation is reversed and the balance of power is shifted towards a player in these situations we get relentless greeting from the fans which i don't think is at all justified.

what i'm saying is that the moralising on here is a bit hypocritical. no one thinks twice about boys who we let go because we deem them not good enough but when a young player essentially does that to the club people are up in arms.

how many boys do we release without a second thought every year because we deem them not good enough? with slane the shoe is on the other foot and i don't see how anyone can complain.

teams play 81 homes games in mlb and the germans have a massive population which ensures high attendances and a massive tv contract. it costs about 4 million pounds a year to run motherwell to a fairly austere standard, we're guaranteed 18 home games plus two half cup gates and we have to maximise our income from them. if we want a decent team we have to pay for it, no one else will. away games are expensive but we can always take a bit of solace in the fact that mfc gain more than we pay out every season.

i don't get why mcghee is getting flak. dempster and the BoD are involved in contracts it's not as if the manager has the final say on who is offered what (especially at youth level). no one is at fault here, slane would rather play for celtic and now the man who discovered him wants to take him there so he'll go at the first opportunity.

i don't think mcghee deserves much blame, chris mccart seems to be the driving force in this. he spoke very highly of slane at the q and a night saying that he's one of the very few exceptional young players in scotland. we should play hardball over the compo and use the examples of the compensation that chelsea have payed middlesborough and leeds for boys they've poached.

i'll be disapointed if he goes but i don't think we should demonise the boy. the chance to play for the team he supports (did we not take a local boy from ross county in the same sort of circumstances in the summer?) added to the fact that he'll probably get a big signing on fee and wage which could make a significant difference to his family means it would be a very hard move to knock back.

getting giles back fit and in the midfield willl be vital to us turning our form round. if you look ata the games where the team have played well this season it's been the same games where coke has played well (killie, rangers, celtic away, hearts, dundee united).

you've obviously no seen his bird.

the guy had clearly had alieniated his own players, the media, the refs, our board and some of the staff inside fir park. in my opinion he was working his ticket so that when the right job came up he'd have been able to jump ship from fir park and blame it on the scottish fitba establishment. boyle sacked him before he got a chance to do this. brown and knox are clearly a short term solution, everyone knows and accepts that.

chut up! train at motherwell at 4 o'clock for a mega boozy day out. mon the 'well!

i don't see the need for the doom and gloom now. we've got a decent core of players at the club and i think we've actually got a better chance of extending the contracts of coke, jennings and hateley without gannon and it whether he's here or not makes no difference to keeping ruddy and juke until the end of the season. the youngsters will get a chance if they're good enough although patience will be required on all fronts, bringing through 7 or 8 young players at the same time will require some balancing. if the players are as happy as is being reported hopefully this will give them a spark going into a run of games that will make or break our season. if we can get a few wins, sort out the defence and build a midfield around slane, jennings, hateley and coke then we'll be in good knick for the run in.