steelboy

do you not think that's maybe to do with your changing attitudes to players as you've got older more than anything else? add to that football fans seem to be harder to please these days i think due to so much football on tv and the 24/7 frenzy that the internet has created. i think the fact you can't sum up what you're looking for shows that it's probably something that doesn't exist. in my eyes corrigan is a legend. we had eight years of total commitment from him taking in various highs and lows and lot of undoubted great performances. if the definition of a legend is someone who's going to remembered and talked about in years to come then corrigan fits the bill. when we're all old (or older) and the talk turns to the turn of the millenium the kaiser is going to be one of the first names to pop up. corrigan, hammell, craigan, clarkson and lasley might not be the most exciting players but i think they all define what motherwell is (and should be) all about: commitment and hard work with the ability to throw in something special. they'll be the guys (along with faddy and phil) that will be remembered from this era at fir park.

if/when it does happen it won't be this season brazilian had me puggled with his link to south lanarkshire builiding equipment but i now realise he probably tried to link to the story on the official about brown training the 19s this week. considering gannon and mcghee were back down south any opportunity and that malpas seemed to resent having to leave tayside it's good to see a manager with such enthusiasm.

aye i think any doubts about their age and suitablilty for their posts have been well and truly put to bed. both of them seem to be relishing getting an opportunity out no where and look as if they're keen to make the most of it. it's good to have people in charge who are focused on the club and not their career.

we as a club don't get to decide who qualifies for a testimonial it's do with the inland revenue. i also think there are quite strict rules around how it has to be organised. hopefully we'll get stevie signed up for another 3 or 4 years soon and keep on racking up the appearances. Frazzle - what sort of criteria would a player have to meet in your eyes to be considered a legend? what more can a player do than give a decade of solid service?

apparently archie is away to teach pep guardiola a few tricks and pa broon is focusing on getting players signed up. keeping themselves busy. they both seem to be enthused by their jobs at fir park and putting 100% commitment in, i'm sure wee craig will be desperate to lead a club into europe for the first time and he'll be doing everything he can to make it happen and make sure we're ready for it if it does.

the best keeper at fir park isn't though if it's fraser in goals next season then so be it and we'll have to get behind him, nobody wants to see us losing goals. we'll cross that bridge (and talk on shite about it on here) when we come to it.

david obua and callum elliot up front. simples.

fraser had an absolute nightmare in the game against rhyll which gannon watched before meeting any of the players. i think first impressions that day might have done for fraser, fitzy and mcgarry in his eyes, they were beyond honking. he's also lucky if he's 6 foot tall which isnae much use.

only because loovens retrospective red card wasn't added into table by the end of the season, count that in and we were best behaved.

i think we're going to have to start calling craigie broon goldenbaws. everything has went our way since he took over hearts were a sorry lot on saturday, i can't see them catching us at all. add in that united have tough a replay on the wednesday before we head up there next saturday is good news as well.

interesting list, dominated by guys from the ancell babes era and then equal reprsentation to tommy mclean's teams and more recently. The 70s seem undereprsented, maybe due to all the managerial changes? the service we've got from guys from our youth system over the past decade has been amazing. hammell, craigan, lasley, clarkson, reynolds and quinn add up to about 1300 appearances between them.

has anyone got a list of the top 20 players with the most appearances?

the stewards at the gate definitely seemed a bit more personable and polite today.

i can't see us going with two wingers again. i think we might see to hateley at right mid and saunders at full back with humphrey dropping out the team above.

guys like ronaldo, messi and rooney have a very rare talent that millions of people around the world are willing to pay to see in some way or another. how many millions of people regularly watch these players? no one argues that paul mccartney, jk rowling or james cameron shouldn't make milllions so why shouldn't the top footballers get to make the as much as they can from their talents.

if real madrid can generate £400 million a year in turnover does ronaldo not at least deserve 1% or 2% of that considering it's his talent that's creating a lot of the revenue?

this was posted by on P&B by the biggest fitba rules geek in scotland. "It's also interesting to note how many pundits and fans now talk about "thank God the cup runner-up slot has been abolished". It hasn't, by the way, Gordon Smith was twice laughed out of UEFA Council on the issue. This is going to be a major shock for some people, if Dundee/Raith/Ross County or even for that matter Kilmarnock end up qualifying for Europe now." i'd take his word for it.

apparently not. that hibeejibee boy that seems well clued up on p&b said the other day that the cup runners up still get in if the winners have qualified already.

whit? the boy didn't even manage to match what hammell has done this week, did you not see the two goals he set up on saturday?

great. 330 odd appearances trumped by 90 minutes against chris humphrey.

i think the difference between the two can summed be summed up by brown saying "i take responsibility", i can't recall gannon ever putting the blame for anything on himself. it was a bit gannonesque last night. 5 at the back against a team that couldn't score in a brothel, humphrey getting a shot up front. it's never good when you go away from home and realise you're playing for a point, it always seems to happen when it's fucking freezing as well. anyway i have full faith broon will have it sorted for saturday we'll be back to doing what we do well.

was it not 509?

i thought saunders was excellent in both positions he played.

we were very, very lucky to get away with a point. the bbc says 58% possession for us but i don't remember gallacher making a save and st mirren had 4 stick on chances. if we had came away being beat by 2 or 3 we could have had no complaints. at halftime it actually felt as if gannon had sneaked back into the dug out as it was very reminiscent of the cup game. again it was disorganised from back to front: humphrey had no idea how to play as a striker, forbes didn't seem to know who to mark at any time and everyone just seemed to forget that hateley was actually there for the entire first half. we're never going to get anything out of any match unless we put 100% in and it just wasn't there tonight from the manager down. mcglinchey on rather than the juke was the big sign that we weren't bothered about taking three points, lets hope we don't end up regreting it. on the positive side it's a another point on the board and keeps us ticking over and unbeaten. i remember saying similar things after a much more boring 0-0 at love street almost exaclty two years ago and we ended up third. i thought reynolds, ruddy and jenno were good again and the main bright spot was saunders who looked refreshed and ready to contribute to the run in.

just on the ref i thought a few of the decisions our fans got worked up about were correct. the one with forbes about 35-40 near the halfway line was definitely a foul by him even although he got took out. the one with sutton near the end was for a jersey pull which sutton is very fortunate he doesn't get pulled up for more often (like his brother) and the one with jennings and johnston just before half time was never a corner but jennings booted johnston's leg before the ball went out so it should have been a free kick anyway. two he definitely did get wrong were the one with the centrhalf charging into humphrey and the one were the boy jumped at o'brien both in the second half down our end. i think some people are being OTT about his overall performance though. there's no point moaning about the ref when your own boss isn't bothered about winning the game.