john_M_F_C Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Art and part is a term used in Scots law to denote the aiding or abetting in the perpetration of a crime, or being an accessory before or at the perpetration of the crime. There is no such offence recognized in Scotland as that of being an accessory after the fact. Under section 293 of the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995, a person may be convicted of, and punished for, a contravention of any enactment, notwithstanding that he was guilty of such contravention as art and part only. So by being in the vicinity 100 odd folk aided or abetted the perpetrators of this truly heinous crime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1991 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Off topic slightly but is there any reason why the bois don't wear club colours. On Saturday I saw a few scarves but don't recall one well top, I saw Stone Island etc really stereotypical Casual wear I suppose. I'm not trying to criticise at all everyone's entitled to wear what they want just when I was a young lad like the bois I wore my well top. As iv said before I think the bois have made a difference to the atmosphere and love away games and don't want to sound negative, times have maybe changed I must be getting old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Off topic slightly but is there any reason why the bois don't wear club colours. On Saturday I saw a few scarves but don't recall one well top, I saw Stone Island etc really stereotypical Casual wear I suppose. I'm not trying to criticise at all everyone's entitled to wear what they want just when I was a young lad like the bois I wore my well top. As iv said before I think the bois have made a difference to the atmosphere and love away games and don't want to sound negative, times have maybe changed I must be getting old And we have another... It's the contradicting fashion polis noo You've checked their web shop aye? Plenty of club colours which are wore by plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Officer Dibble has made a statement on their official facebook page, anybody add a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassinari Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 So by being in the vicinity 100 odd folk aided or abetted the perpetrators of this truly heinous crime? Sorry, should have quoted the post above, just highlighting that you can be found guilty by association. No, doesn't justify kettling hundreds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Officer Dibble has made a statement on their official facebook page, anybofy add a link? Cant you just type 'police scotland facebook' into google or do you want everyone to cook your dinner for you too?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1991 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 And we have another... It's the contradicting fashion polis noo You've checked their web shop aye? Plenty of club colours which are wore by plenty. Think you missed my point, I only asked a question and thought a reason for being targeted may be lack of colours ie Sterotypical casual wear, I don't always wear colours but did when I was younger as I said times have changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Cant you just type 'police scotland facebook' into google or do you want everyone to cook your dinner for you too?? Sorry I'm sure. Didn't realise the faceless page was an open one, not being on facebook likes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Think you missed my point, I only asked a question and thought a reason for being targeted may be lack of colours ie Sterotypical casual wear, I don't always wear colours but did when I was younger as I said times have changed Didn't miss your point at all, 'stereotypical casual wear' is a complete red herring. Do you think it would be any different if they were done up like a Christmas Tree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Bawbags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1991 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Didn't miss your point at all, 'stereotypical casual wear' is a complete red herring. Do you think it would be any different if they were done up like a Christmas Tree? I do actually when at train station I saw a group of boys wearing no colours stopped whilst a group wearing well tops walked straight on no hassle but prob wouldn't make a difference inside stadium I agree with you on that point. I'm not saying they should change only saying the way I see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Sorry I'm sure. Didn't realise the faceless page was an open one, not being on facebook likes... Im not on scudbook either, I just googled it and it worked fine. I was posting from my phone so I couldn't put a or even after it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 And like some of us having been saying all along, the police use the flares/smokebombs on the very first line of their justification. The 'Well fans / Bois have lost this battle as a result of the smoke bombs- lets just make sure we win the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Absolutely ridiculous statement from the Police. I refuse to believe any Motherwell fan in this day and age would wear flares to a game. On a serious note, blatant lies from The Fuzz, who get more and more like the KGB every day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Absolutely ridiculous statement from the Police. I refuse to believe any Motherwell fan in this day and age would wear flares to a game. On a serious note, blatant lies from The Fuzz, who get more and more like the KGB every day. Semi flares are okay though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Dossers. Lets make these honorable people work for their money. NLC MSP's. #HeavyHandsEmptyStands North Lanarkshire Constituency Members of Scottish Parliament Names and contact details for MSP's Jamie Hepburn MSP - Cumbernauld and Kilsyth Constituency Constituency Office: 13 The Wynd, The Village, Cumbernauld G57 2ST Business: The Scottish Parliament, Holyrood, Edinburgh EH99 1SP Tel: 0131 348 5000 John Pentland MSP - Motherwell and Wishaw Constituency Constituency Office: 265 Main Street, Wishaw, ML2 7NE Tel: 01698 303040 Fax: 01698 303060 Business: The Scottish Parliament, Holyrood, Edinburgh EH99 1SP Tel: 0131 348 5000 Michael McMahon MSP - Uddingston and Bellshill Constituency Constituency: 188 Main Street, Bellshill ML4 1AE Tel: 01698 304501 Fax: 01698 300223 Business: The Scottish Parliament, Holyrood, Edinburgh EH99 1SP Tel: 0131 348 5000 Fax: 01698 849013 Elaine Smith MSP - Coatbridge and Chryston Constituency Office: Unit 65, Fountain Business Centre, Coatbridge ML5 3AA Tel/Fax: 01236 449122 Business: The Scottish Parliament, Holyrood, Edinburgh EH99 1SP Tel: 0131 348 5000 Fax: 0121 348 5834 Alex Neil MSP - Airdrie and Shotts Business: The Scottish Parliament, Holyrood, Edinburgh EH99 1SP Tel: 0131 348 5000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chummy Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Dossers. Lets make these honorable people work for their money. NLC MSP's. #HeavyHandsEmptyStands North Lanarkshire Constituency Members of Scottish Parliament Ooft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Ooft Ooft whit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 What is the story for next week, is the drum allowed in now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmostFrazzled Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 What is the story for next week, is the drum allowed in now? Probably not. Knowing Tannadice, anything louder than a fucking crisp packet will be banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 What is the story for next week, is the drum allowed in now? After our recent treatment at the hands of this mob, we should just keep our cash. They deserve nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 After our recent treatment at the hands of this mob, we should just keep our cash. They deserve nothing. I agree but a boycott in a half-arsed manner just looks like a poor away support and achieves nothing other than losing Utd a few quid that they will barely feel with the extra revenue coming in from it being televised. If we are going to boycott it should be done properly, with media statements released as to exactly why we're doing and to let 'Well fans who may not be on this forum know what is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 1379406075[/url]' post='396122']I agree but a boycott in a half-arsed manner just looks like a poor away support and achieves nothing other than losing Utd a few quid that they will barely feel with the extra revenue coming in from it being televised. If we are going to boycott it should be done properly, with media statements released as to exactly why we're doing and to let 'Well fans who may not be on this forum know what is happening. I don't think Utd get anything for it being televised, payout is based on league position. Cup games are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Could be wrong but I'm sure I read somewhere that Dundee Utd have changed the security company they have been using so might not be as bad this time, alternatively it might be even worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roly Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 If we are going to boycott it should be done properly, with media statements released as to exactly why we're doing and to let 'Well fans who may not be on this forum know what is happening. I would disagree. Believe it or not, there's quite a few 'Well fan who really couldn't give a fuck if you can take a drum into a football ground or not. Boycotts are the type of thing you expect from the old firm. This was handled perfectly the last time. A wee bit of media exposure stating why a sizeable group chose not to attend and that they were more than happy to give their money to our own club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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