pretzel Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, 'WellMagic! said: I know this appointment probably makes sense, but I can't help but feel it's a bit uninspired. Feeling rather deflated about it and I'm not sure why. I think it's always a difficult one when your club is looking to recruit a new manager, I started going to games when Tommy McLean was manager and when he left I remember the excitement of who it could be and I remember Guus Hiddink amongst many other names being touted for the job only for Alex McLeish to get announced. Since then for the best part it always seems to be guys with limited to no experience or a few who's stock has fallen drastically that get the gig. I remember being scunnered by the Stephen Robinson appointment, but I think that was mainly based on his Oldham experience. Personally I'm glad it's not the likes of Malky Mackay or Neil Lennon, I woke up in a cold sweat this morning thinking about that this morning. For me Hammell ticks all the right boxes, yes it would have been great to have more experience but he'll know the current crop of youngsters well, he has made all the right noises in regards to the necessary changes that we could all see that were needed under Alexander, so lets see what he does in that regard in the next few weeks. No matter who was hired it would clearly be met with a mixed opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: We don't know who expressed an interest. There could have been some great applications but outside our budget. The club are not in a precarious position. The Well society have cash reserves. The stadium had been updated using cheap Government funding and have played two games into a season. GA was punted to ensure we don't end up in a precarious position. Precarious is being Dundee up to their arse in debt and in the Championship. We are in a precarious position in the league. We have probably the worst attack in the league along with St Mirren and the single worst defence in the league. We also have the most inexperienced manager. How much money we have in the bank won't matter if we finish bottom. It's also likely that when the transfer window closes fans are going to get pissed off that we spent millions levelling a perfectly fine pitch and are stuck watching Josh Morris and Joe Efford week in, week out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Burrows has to take some blame. When Alexander comes to you and asks for Paul McGinn point to Stephen O'Donnell's contract that he signed off on 12 months ago. When he wants Blair Spittal point to Cornelius, Goss and Slattery and ask how he fits in. When he wants 31 year old journeyman Morris just say no. We have only signed three players and we didn't need any of them. Managers are financially insulated from failure by the nature of their contracts, they cannot be allowed to control the club's budget with no oversight. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Best wishes to Stevie Hammell. It will be interesting to see how much patience his long service buys him with the support if he does not get off to a flying start. Interesting as well to see who he signs to strengthen the squad. I wish him good luck. I think he might need it because he has a mighty job on his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 He wasn’t my first choice but I’ll get right behind him like everyone else. The man has dedicated most of his adult life to this club. I hope this is a success story, because he deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 My ideal appointment would be someone in the mould of Alex Neil or Eddie Howe, both were outstanding managers who knew the club, cared about the community feel. Despite Stevie not having first team experience he ticked every other box and then some. He wants to see us develop youth and the community aspect of our club. He also has a handle on the current issues with the team/squad. Given we're light years away from having Alex Neil/Eddie Howe I'm enthused that we have given Stevie the opportunity do something like this. I'll be happy to avoid relegation scares and start having something to cheer on and see a future with. This should be a +3 year project with natural progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 I shall say this if he hasn't signed a natural left back that can defend at Motherwell by the end of the transfer window then we are done for lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: When you fire someone you should have a plan to bring in a replacement. I don't think we did and the club has meekly folded to the idiotic knee jerk roasters in our support. Disagree 100%. If anything the Board could be accused of being too loyal to Alexander...... and by all accounts serious consideration was given to making the change before the start of the season. And this is a Board who having made that original decision and seeing no hint of improvement, then acted swiftly and decisively. And how do you know they had no plan B already in their minds? Facts suggest otherwise. In a very short space of time they have sifted through over 70 applications (some perhaps invited), identified a short list of suitable applicants and conducted interviews. At the end of the day they have now announced the appointment of a young, qualified coach who has an in depth knowledge of the Scottish game and has Motherwell's best interest at heart. I think change was very much in the minds of the Board, but being the Club we are, Alexander was given the opportunity to show he had the ability and support to turn things around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: Hammell starts with my support like every other Motherwell manager but we've basically swapped out an experienced manager with a track record for an inexperienced manager with no track record and I think that highlights that no high quality candidate wanted to work with our squad, budget and toxic fan base. When you fire someone you should have a plan to bring in a replacement. I don't think we did and the club has meekly folded to the idiotic knee jerk roasters in our support. Hopefully it works out for Stevie, the club and my season ticket investment but I think he has a very, very hard job ahead of him. Don't think it's case of club folding in, yes some of the fans in past few months been ridiculously OTT but change was needed, this wasn't just about Sligo, it is whole of 2022 form, etc etc. But everyone has their own views. Hammell certainly saying the right things and hopefully will back them up with results and good signings. I will certainly give him the time to hopefully achieve this..COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Given the apparent paucity of options I am quite pleased with this appointment. We got out of jail with 3 points v St Mirren. We deserved a point at least against St Johnstone. I cannot speak to the St Mirren as I was not there, but I already saw positives in the St Johnstone game despite the result. We were on the front foot for most of the 2nd half and I saw more football trying to be played than in the previous few months +. He cannot be blamed for the 2nd goal. That is squarely on our inept defence. I already saw someone saying he needs to finish top 6 to match Alexander. Technically correct, but gives you a backdrop to the unrealistic expectations of our fan base. Right now I would take more appealing football and 10th place as long as the mid to longer term starts to takes shape. Of course he is inexperienced. But then so is every successful Manager who starts out. He speaks well about our current status and clearly impressed the Board more than any other applicant. Helps being a Well legend but he gets my 100% backing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope Springs Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Congratulations, Steven Hammell. This is a fine appointment, in my opinion. No other candidate knows the club better, it’s aims, aspirations, needs, than a man who has served it for over two decades with pride, commitment , professional integrity and skill. He, for me, epitomises what a Motherwell manager should be - he’s articulate, has a clear sense of how all the different elements that make up the complexity of a football club need to work in harmony and pull in a mutually understood direction. He commands the professional respect of the players, the board and the fans as well as the wider community. He is immersed in Motherwell and has shown loyalty and passion in his service. He is measured and thoughtful and has under recognised talent. I wish him every success and think we could do no better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, dennyc said: Disagree 100%. If anything the Board could be accused of being too loyal to Alexander...... and by all accounts serious consideration was given to making the change before the start of the season. And this is a Board who having made that original decision and seeing no hint of improvement, then acted swiftly and decisively. And how do you know they had no plan B already in their minds? Facts suggest otherwise. In a very short space of time they have sifted through over 70 applications (some perhaps invited), identified a short list of suitable applicants and conducted interviews. At the end of the day they have now announced the appointment of a young, qualified coach who has an in depth knowledge of the Scottish game and has Motherwell's best interest at heart. I think change was very much in the minds of the Board, but being the Club we are, Alexander was given the opportunity to show he had the ability and support to turn things around. The Board was fully aware of the strength of feeling of the fans re performances. They are fans themselves ! However you could not realistically fire a Manager who got you top 6 and into Europe. But I believe he would have been a goner end of last season had he not achieved Europe and indeed had we lost all our top 6 games. Sligo was painful but it may turn out to be a blessing if this is indeed a new dawn…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning by Name Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hope Springs said: Congratulations, Steven Hammell. This is a fine appointment, in my opinion. No other candidate knows the club better, it’s aims, aspirations, needs, than a man who has served it for over two decades with pride, commitment , professional integrity and skill. He, for me, epitomises what a Motherwell manager should be - he’s articulate, has a clear sense of how all the different elements that make up the complexity of a football club need to work in harmony and pull in a mutually understood direction. He commands the professional respect of the players, the board and the fans as well as the wider community. He is immersed in Motherwell and has shown loyalty and passion in his service. He is measured and thoughtful and has under recognised talent. I wish him every success and think we could do no better. And the same from me. Congratulations Stevie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgey Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, steelboy said: Given who was on the shortlist this is the best appointment. Simo was too big a risk considering our current position and the other candidates were poor. Hammell's only job this season is to keep us up which will be very difficult. Hopefully the lack of interest in the job from credible managers gives Burrows and the other key decision makers at the club a kick up the arse regarding our transfer policy. We have been burning piles of cash on dross for too long and it's left us in a very precarious position. Something has to change on that front. No more Effords, no more Grimmys, no more Niernolds, Ojalas, Sloths. Is your reference to the poor candidate list based upon knowledge of applicants and interviewees or the social media rumours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinAtherton Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Hammy will get my backing 100%, he’s a Well legend and clearly has a plan which is great. My only worry is that he might be the cheap option, knowing how badly we need to strengthen the squad, it would help if we are skint.I wonder if he might look to former players as options, I’m thinking Moult, Bowman, Shaun Hutchison, maybe Turnbull on loan depending on how likely he is to get game time for Celtic this season.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 50 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: You don't exactly need to read between the lines to see it wasn't just the support who wanted Alexander out of the club. Totally agree I think had Lammie not scored that last minute header to get us into the top six he would have been punted then. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatsy Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Its the obvious choice, knows the club and players here atm I also like his vision its about making that happen my only concern is if he has the contacts to bring in the required quality of player in a short time knowing the reach of our scouting system and what its turned up so far. He is not tried and tested but likewise he has not failed anywhere so who not to say he's the next Jurgen Klopp. Lets go Hammy and bring success to the mighty well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprawell Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 32 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: I shall say this if he hasn't signed a natural left back that can defend at Motherwell by the end of the transfer window then we are done for lol. Genuinely this, both Carroll and McGinley are honking in different ways, plus injured. Either we give youth a chance or get someone signed with a left foot who can play left back. I wish Stevie luck, but it was the cheap option with no imagination in the candidate pool, almost like he was given the role and the others were a footnote. Something that's totally unlike the current board or Burrows to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinAtherton Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 It think it was just about the worst possible time to be looking to appoint a new manager. The end of season manager merry go round has long finished and there haven’t been a lot of managers loosing their jobs in the last month or so to replenish the candidate pool.In respect of the board having a plan in place, they surely had to have one. No one can look at the teams form from January and not be making serious contingency plans in the event of a bad start to the season. They were put in a very difficult position. On one hand how can you sack a manager that delivered top 6 and European qualification. If someone offered any of us that right now we bite their hands off for it. The other side of the coin is that this isn’t a paper exercise, how we got there is important. If we’d won 2 games in the first half of the season and then went on a rampage in the second half finishing 5th, the managers position would have been rock solid.The decline in the quality of the squad has been stark. Losing Watt was terminal for us, he was our best player and his work rate and quality left us significantly weaker. We needed to maintain that squad and replace Watt (which is a near impossible task given we’d be taking a punt on someone, rather than buying the finished article). Instead we lost other members of the squad and the replacements have, as of yet, failed to live up to the challenge.Hopefully we make some moves on the transfer market quickly. One name that I’ve been thinking about for a wee while is Mikey Johnston on loan. He was available on loan though not sure if he’s out of our budget, or if he’s already got something lined up.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintymac Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Massive congratulations to Stevie Hammel .Time now to get fully behind him . If we can get through this season then I’m excited to see him develop his medium to long term approach . Feels like we’ve got our club back in good hands . The last 18 months or so felt like the oxygen was getting sucked out of the place . It’s a tough gig as I’m sure he’s fully aware but I’m 100% behind him . Best of luck Stevie . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 I'm actually delighted for Stevie but he has his work cut out thats for sure. It's funny though as a poster was criticising the board for turfing oot an experienced one and replacing him with an inexperienced one, omitting the fact that we're in the mess because of said experienced manager. It will be interesting to see where we are come the end of August in terms of player recruitment and perhaps a few moving on, I can't say I'm overly confident with the guy Daws recommending any future additions to Hammell. A few folk have mentioned their concern for the left back berth, with both Carroll and McGinley out for the foreseeable I wouldn't be surprised to see Lamie fill in there but obviously he never got much joy when he last filled that position during the Covid season. Obviously we won't be privy to the budgets etc but hopefully he has plenty of scope to make the necessary changes he wants. Most of this side managed to do well up until Boxing Day last year even though the football wasn't too pretty but it just goes to show how losing one player can derail your season. You would hope that if we could add some quality it might give us all a positive outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatsy Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Looking back at what happened with Lasley who went from Asst Manager to observer in the stand things were going downhill from early on. I believe we now have a Motherwell Man in charge but he will need all our backing. You could see the change in the pattern of play in the last two games but its impossible to make a silk purse out of a sows ear, hopefully with a few quality additions we can kick on and have a successful season. Complaining about the timing of releasing Alexander, can you imagine the outrage if he was still here until Christmas and things had got no better then released there would of been crys of why he was not sacked earlier. So timing was right for me and appointment is encouraging considering the circumstance we find our self in today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatsy Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, maz said: I'm actually delighted for Stevie but he has his work cut out thats for sure. It's funny though as a poster was criticising the board for turfing oot an experienced one and replacing him with an inexperienced one, omitting the fact that we're in the mess because of said experienced manager. It will be interesting to see where we are come the end of August in terms of player recruitment and perhaps a few moving on, I can't say I'm overly confident with the guy Daws recommending any future additions to Hammell. A few folk have mentioned their concern for the left back berth, with both Carroll and McGinley out for the foreseeable I wouldn't be surprised to see Lamie fill in there but obviously he never got much joy when he last filled that position during the Covid season. Obviously we won't be privy to the budgets etc but hopefully he has plenty of scope to make the necessary changes he wants. Most of this side managed to do well up until Boxing Day last year even though the football wasn't too pretty but it just goes to show how losing one player can derail your season. You would hope that if we could add some quality it might give us all a positive outlook. Lambie must never play left back again we've been there and seen what happens No No No. let SOD or McGinn play there or sign someone, perhaps Max Johnson can play left back. Carroll and McGinlay should be released, madness renewing their contracts last year just another Alexander mess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguru Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 He is the messiah. And I should know, I've seen a few. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, mcguru said: He is the messiah. And I should know, I've seen a few. Just hope he's not a very naughty boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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