2024/25 Ins & Outs Discussion

[MJC]

1 hour ago, Spit_It_Out said:

I just hope the funds are used on the squad no excuses and not to fix seats or fix a wall or any other shite.

 

 

Hearing that a big chunk of it is going to be invested in the women’s team, with the rest being used to make our new away kit…

[wellfan]

35 minutes ago, weeyin said:

SK has already said he's planning to bring in 2 or 3 more players.

Zero chance, however, we spend an extra million on new faces.

I’m relatively happy with the attackers signed so far, but, if Bair is sold, the Club needs to invest some of the fee received on a proper replacement with sell on potential, and not another project. We got lucky with Bair, so kudos for that, but it’s rare it’ll happen twice in a row. 

[weeyin]

10 minutes ago, wellfan said:

I’m relatively happy with the attackers signed so far, but, if Bair is sold, the Club needs to invest some of the fee received on a proper replacement with sell on potential, and not another project. We got lucky with Bair, so kudos for that, but it’s rare it’ll happen twice in a row. 

I'm sure SK will have been planning for that knowing that it was a near certainty Bair would be moving on.

Strikers are always a gamble though. As well as being confidence players, they need to fit in to the system. SK has done well managing that with Bair and van Veen, so hopefully the new intake of strikers will have similar success (or at least one of them does).

[wellfan]

29 minutes ago, weeyin said:

I'm sure SK will have been planning for that knowing that it was a near certainty Bair would be moving on.

Strikers are always a gamble though. As well as being confidence players, they need to fit in to the system. SK has done well managing that with Bair and van Veen, so hopefully the new intake of strikers will have similar success (or at least one of them does).

Robinson looks the most likely to perform as a proper number 9, whereas Moses is probably more of a penalty box finisher, time will tell with Stuparevic, and I assume Ferrie will go out on loan. Therefore, I’d like to see us sign another big athlete like Bair, who can batter through the middle of defensive lines. 

[Richie]

Robinson and Steparovic looked decent when they appeared on Sat and Ebiye's pre-season has been encouraging

[Spit_It_Out]

17 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Robinson looks the most likely to perform as a proper number 9, whereas Moses is probably more of a penalty box finisher, time will tell with Stuparevic, and I assume Ferrie will go out on loan. Therefore, I’d like to see us sign another big athlete like Bair, who can batter through the middle of defensive lines. 

I would be happy with Moses and Robinson leading the line  really like the look of them both however we are really crying out for someone on the creative side of things feel like we are missing on that front. 

[StAndrew7]

1 hour ago, wellfan said:

Robinson looks the most likely to perform as a proper number 9, whereas Moses is probably more of a penalty box finisher, time will tell with Stuparevic, and I assume Ferrie will go out on loan. Therefore, I’d like to see us sign another big athlete like Bair, who can batter through the middle of defensive lines. 

Agreed; Moses on Saturday did enough to convince me that he can't play the complete forward/lone striker position (right now, anyway) but based on his movement and positioning, definitely can play as a poacher/on the shoulder type striker. I think him and Robinson together with one of Nicholson/Stuparavic behind them could do some damage. Watching him warming up reminded me of Porter's finishing*; he always found a corner and very rarely, if at all, missed the target.

*I am not for one second comparing the two ability wise as Porter was one of the best "complete" strikers I've seen at FP, just commenting on the fact that Moses looks like he can finish similarly.

Like others have said, Robinson definitely showed some graft, nice touches and a willingness to drive at defenders (his shot from distance wasn't too bad, either) when he was on. I think he's also deceptively quick; he's quite a gangly lad at 6'2" but definitely covered ground well.

Stuparevic doesn't strike me as a runner; very much a bigger-hold-up-and-create-space-back-to-the-goal type which is actually a welcome option/different style.

You can actually see SK's recruitment there has worked quite well; all three of our first team strikers offer something different that can compliment the others' ability/playing style.

I'd still like another creative midfielder type to come in; we were definitely lacking the killer pass on Saturday at times and going up against two blocks of four/a four and a five we didn't demonstrate any real penetration. I would argue that was probably more down to personnel in the first half and a lack of urgency; we definitely did better in the second half and I thought we started to get in behind a bit more when Robinson and Stuparevic came on.

RWB wise, I think McDermott showed some decent touches/willingness to get in behind in his cameo but we definitely need another body there if he ends up going out on loan and Johnny K is out injured for a while. As much as I'm a fan of SODs, his days of playing as the complete wing back outside emergency cover are behind him.

[David]

4 hours ago, Spit_It_Out said:

I just hope the funds are used on the squad no excuses and not to fix seats or fix a wall or any other shite.

Maybe the club will put away some money to cover us for the infamous "10th place finish and no cup run" that has lots of people on socials ready to press the panic button and hand control to Hollywood Erik.

[Spiderpig]

It seems we might be getting more money for Bair than has previously been reported according to SK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cnk4wdkv3zlo

[witchfindergeneral]

Think we'll need to get in another LWB & RWB soon, presumably from the loan market. Seddon now injured as well as Jonny K out for a couple of months.

Definitely need a creative mid for the 10 role, Paton cannae do it and I'm not sure how many games Nicholson will manage.

Obviously we are signing a striker to replace Bair, not got a clue who it'll be.

[wellfan]

8 minutes ago, witchfindergeneral said:

Definitely need a creative mid for the 10 role, Paton cannae do it and I'm not sure how many games Nicholson will manage.

Stuparevic is probably lined up to play as a 10.

[StAndrew7]

https://x.com/ScotlandSky/status/1812842871642563045

 

Bair in France to seal his move, apparently. Saying the move is worth "in excess of £1.4m".

[Spiderpig]

39 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:

https://x.com/ScotlandSky/status/1812842871642563045

 

Bair in France to seal his move, apparently. Saying the move is worth "in excess of £1.4m".

£1.4 million plus add ons is a brilliant bit of business for a player that cost us very little. So the final amount for Bair could be just about what Barmack wanted to invest over 6 years ffs 

[AllyMax]

Just now, Spiderpig said:

£1.4 million plus add ons is a brilliant bit of business for a player that cost us very little. So the final amount for Bair could be just about what Barmack wanted to invest over 6 years ffs 

That's kinda the way I was seeing it. The initial fee is what ? Around 3-4 years of the Barmack input with no shares or transfer of ownership of anything other then The Bair ?

 

[weeyin]

That plus the payments we get for Kelly and Theo being on international duty is a nice windfall and shows, yet again, that developing players doesn't just mean from the academy. We have a number of examples now where older players (both on-loan and MFC) have gained international recognition during their spells with us.

[StAndrew7]

3 minutes ago, weeyin said:

That plus the payments we get for Kelly and Theo being on international duty is a nice windfall and shows, yet again, that developing players doesn't just mean from the academy. We have a number of examples now where older players (both on-loan and MFC) have gained international recognition during their spells with us.

I've been told by a few people that we get absolutely £0 for Theo being away on international duty, although yet to see an official source confirm it either way.

Perhaps CONCACAF or whatever aren't as loaded as UEFA?

[wellfan]

2 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:

I've been told by a few people that we get absolutely £0 for Theo being away on international duty, although yet to see an official source confirm it either way.

Perhaps CONCACAF or whatever aren't as loaded as UEFA?

Once CONCACAF or CONMEBOL, or whoever it is, has paid out compensation after their piss-up in a brewery last night, they won't have a pot to piss in, let alone cash to pay clubs. 

[StAndrew7]

10 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Once CONCACAF or CONMEBOL, or whoever it is, has paid out compensation after their piss-up in a brewery last night, they won't have a pot to piss in, let alone cash to pay clubs. 

Fair point, well made!

[weeyin]

38 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:

I've been told by a few people that we get absolutely £0 for Theo being away on international duty, although yet to see an official source confirm it either way.

Perhaps CONCACAF or whatever aren't as loaded as UEFA?

No idea - that info was from a poster a few weeks ago who sounded like they knew what they were talking about.

[wellfan]

 

[StAndrew7]

Looks like a right back. Excellent!

[parko66]

Is that the new away top he is wearing? or is that a training top?

[wellfan]

3 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:

Looks like a right back. Excellent!

Marvellous. 

[StAndrew7]

12 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Marvellous. 

Thought long and hard about that one, didn't you?

[weeyin]

How long before he gets his Martian orders?

(one for the Bugs Bunny fans)