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They certainly have different rules as McLean thought Said's was foul last week but happily let's mcgregor shove devlin on the chest and no yellow card

It might be my imagination but do Celtic & Rangers not have a different type of VAR which they had to install to enable them to play in the champion league?

A huge win for us yesterday as its all very well to play entertaining football but its points that count. So, it was job done. We started off well in the first 20 minutes or so with nice possession football, and had Livi penned back. However we were toothless up front and did nothing in their box. That combined with a resolute defence rendered Prior surplus to Livi's requirements. They grew into the game for the rest of the half without dominating possession and looked dangerous on the break, aided by our disorganised rearguard. O'Donnell suffered a torrid time on the right and Longelo looked out of sorts. Although they scored through a stupid penalty, in truth they could have been 2 or 3 goals up by half time. That said, Ward didn't have much to do. The second half started much the same as the first half ended although we did up our game slightly. Again, Prior had nothing to do. Ward had a couple of good saves. As the subs were introduced, we started to improve and it was good to see Slattery reappear. A cast iron penalty evened things and in the last 20 we really began to open the game up. 2 exceedingly tight offside decisions went against us and goals chalked off on the say so of VAR. At the time I thought Just's first effort was way off but after looking at highlights it was toenail tight - not what VAR should be checking. Just got his rewards with a well taken move and finish. Game over. Ye cannae beat a late winner! Did I feel sorry for Livi? Yes and no. On balance they probably deserved a draw but their cynical tactics make me think twice. They played a weak Nick Walsh like Aly Bain on a fiddle. Within the first 4 minutes they committed 3 fouls. It was easy to see why they have amassed the highest crime count in the league. Still, we won without any help from VAR. Whilst we are battling VAR, Falkirk have lucked out for the second week in succession. Swings and roundabouts hopefully.

I’ll still be going because I’m a longstanding season ticket holder, but I think I’ll genuinely hesitate before renewing next season. VAR and the clowns running it have ripped every bit of spontaneity and enjoyment out of going to the football. It’s supposed to be entertainment, and instead we’re standing about waiting on decisions nobody in the ground can understand. We’re being taken for absolute mugs, and I’m sick of it.

I hear you buddy, but you're still going on Wednesday though, right?

When will the tickets appear in the Hampden app? I wouldn't hope maybe tomorrow or Tuesday?

It also took Longelo, Said and Maswanhise out the game as it was nigh impossible to dribble on effectively. Given that they are our "chaos agents" thats a big part of our game nullified before we start.

I would accept a draw right now and a clean bill of health for all the players for Saturday. id have slattery on the bench too and give him 30/40mins in the second half in prep for the semi final.

A clean sheet would be ideal, tightening up and not being so able to cut through to create a bit more steel aread of the semi. 3 points though would put us ahead of UTD and they're certainly beatable.

We’re being sold a sham in Scotland that would never fly in the English top flight, yet we just sit and accept it every week. Budget VAR tech, incompetent officials, and plastic pitches. I’ve had enough.

That said, I don't think checking to see if a player has a toenail offside is in the spirit of the offside law. Was it not originally 'seeking to gain an advantage' by standing offside, or something?

VAR checks every goal scored regardless of what the linesman says. I don't have any issue with factual interpretations - my suggestion is the law needs to be changed to revert to the spirit of it. You could still either be on or off; just use different criteria. Actually, I'd prefer to ditch VAR, but if we are stuck with it, the laws need to adapt to keep up with the technology.

Justs header was definitely offside to the naked eye when it was replayed. The first one was very close, but the linesman gave it, so VAR wasnt a factor. Offside decisions don't need to be clear and obvious, you're either onside or you aren't. Whether the cameras are good enough is a different question, but the lines are consistent at each ground at least. As soon as you move away from the factual decisions for offside you would get all sort of stupid interpretations, like with all the other var decisions. It would be better if we just didn't have it at all.

Correct the pace on that pitch today was ridiculously slow. Whilst not to blame for every intercepted pass it certainly played a part.

We will but from what I saw today Utd we're far from convincing against St Mirren and lucked out with the refs decisions. It will be a hard hard game but if we have any aspirations we need to win games like this. The return of Slattery is a major bonus. If we play like we can and do it over 90 mins there's no reason why we can't win.

That's yet another weakness. The minimum number of required cameras is a joke. I'd also argue the offside rule isn't fit for purpose now VAR is being used. It was designed to prevent teams sticking a player in the box for 90 minutes and punting long balls to them. It wasn't intended to rule out goals when someone's big toe is half a centimetre ahead of the defenders's big toe. But that is a different discussion.

Agree with that Joe. Given the degree of inaccuracy and uncertainty built into our budget system you'd think that the VAR operators would not place too much weight on very tight offside calls unless they're "clear and obvious". But, that's not how they're using it.

I think the VAR technology can provide the angles to draw the lines. But we paid for the cheap version with less cameras which, by definition will be less accurate. It therefore stands to reason that, with very tight decisions like today's, its hard to have confidence in its accuracy. So although it isnt a subjective thing, the "clear and obvious" is still a fair shout......

The win today should take a bit of the pressure off and being back on the grass should allow us to be a bit more free flowing again. Hopefully Longelo is ok, although I would be just as happy to rest him for the semi final if required. Everyone else should be fitter and sharper as a result of todays run out. Im not convinced United are all they are cracked up to be. Decent, yes. Beatable, certainly. Id take a draw, but 3 points would be magnificent for the teams confidence ahead of Saturday.

Yeah, agree. I think the editing process will generally mean we don't get to see the real us. Highlights tend to focus on the lead-up to shots on goal / goals, but a lot of our intricate passes (lovely to watch as it is) doesn't actually lead to that.

VAR has no business ruling on offside decisions until there are at least two correctly placed cameras on both sides of the pitch.

Agreed, the referee today was abysmal. Extremely weak. He allowed Livi players to come through the back on multiple occasions without any caution. At one stage 3 players had a go at Maswanhise and no cards dished out. Your point about the simulated injuries is spot on. This behaviour is so frustrating as a fan at the game, this sort of behaviour really needs to carry some form of punishment.

I thought Stama took the PK and scored? 🤣🤣🤣