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He slipped on the pitch alright but in doing so he carried on and fouled the attacker who was in a goalscoring position so its a red. Changing rules to suit a slip will open a can of worms. Players claiming they slipped, faking stumbles, slipping and carrying on ito the attacker deliberately etc. Professional game is full of fake,injury playacting, trying to get an advantage etc. If it was other way about we would want the opposition player sent off for stopping us scoring. Keep it simple no interpretation by ref or var what caused it a foul is a foul.

I've listened to the manager talk about load management doesn't mean I need to agree with him. Had he rotated the team on Sunday I wouldn't have been bothered in fact if you look at other posts that was what I had expected him to do. 'Questioning Connolly's involvement' obviously he quite literally had killed the game plan within a minute and a half I'm not seeing a load management argument there.

Didnt get to watch the game but seen some clips. jBA’s selection may or may not have been good enough, due to the red cards we won’t know the answer. We do know that he has been pretty much right, this season so far, in his selections. just have to deal with the defeat in whatever way you choose and then move on to next game. still 100% behind JBA and the players.

Referees are the problem, incompetent poor officials, who know they will face no sanctions irrespective of how they perform, they struggle with the normal rules of the game, so judgememt calls will be no different. Theve always been poor but VAR has made it worse its ruining football as we all saw last night, the whole set up is not fit for purpose.

Said earlier, or on another thread, he's just a Poundland Scott Brown. Charges about thinking he's double hard. Vastly overrated.

Certainly not. According to Richard Gordon he's simply committed. Aye right.

Its not really in the spirit of the game though is it? An early bath for something you had absolutely no control over whatsoever? Its harsh......... Edit: to add, I dont think Liam Gordon's challenge is a red card under the current laws of the game. But, much like Souttar's challenge in the Rangers game, it should be. A very deliberate act.......

Oh yes!! An absolute horrible character

Anyone else think Shinnie is an absolute bell end?

Since you believe this team and manager have been guilty of these things on two ocassions this season, and that is unacceptable, what is it you think the club should actually do about it now? Because simply informing them they must win these games in the future doesn't guarantee a thing.

Perhaps start taking Cup games more seriously? Perhaps the team on the park at the time not folding and losing to teams that they are well capable of beating in Cup ties? It’s not on just any one particular manager. I’m talking about us as a club and as a team failing to reach the Quarters of the Scottish Cup four seasons in a row especially when you look at the sides we have been paired with and who have knocked us out in those campaigns. I don’t think that that is anywhere near good enough or acceptable. If anyone disagrees that’s up to them but I have given my reasons why I and I stand by it.

I don't think it will get toxic, its just a real frustration going out to an average side and with wrong set up. Anyhoo after the st mirren semi final defeat look at how we have bounced back plus Welsh will be available again. I expect a reaction from players on Saturday and hopefully get back to winning ways. Altogether now........COYW!!!

Yes, it's not unacceptable for different managers and teams to lose games.

If it's unacceptable, what should be done about it?

No. It is unacceptable that we have failed to reach the Quarter Finals in the Scottish Cup in the last four seasons having been knocked out by two Championship sides, bottom of the table St.Johnstone and a rank rotten Aberdeen side way below us in the league. Unacceptable. Put it in your pipe and smoke it.

Making referees decide what is an accidental slip or stumble versus a player pretending to slip or stumble (or not even trying to pretend but getting away with it anyway) sounds like it would result in even more controversial decisions. At least with the current rules they don't have another judgement call to make.

That's the case in England, but looks like the suspension is still served in the relevant competion here, according to their rules. VAR is checking for a possible rule change.

Mate Aberdeen are shite by any measure, that's why they are where they are. That's why we've beat them 3 times already this season We are a better team than them and that's why folk are a bit raw about it. Even the starting selection, that everyone is going overboard about, should have been enough to take care of them. We lost because two players fucked up the Keeper and Gordon. Everything else is over complicating a situation that basically saw us put ourselves out. It really doesn't get much more complicated than that.

JBA only lost us to a double double header fixture vs Aberdeen, bad luck is in our control now?, fuck off with the unacceptable pish, don't like it, don't go.

I honestly don’t know straight reds normally carry over no matter the competition.

After reflection and my chronic disappointment of last night, I actually think Connelly did quite well after the 5min mark. However the first 5mins did have a huge bearing on the game.

Folks Some of the reaction to a single game which was played on a ploughed field where a guy slipped and was red carded and then another had a brain fart and was red carded is off the charts. Some of you have reverted to type. The level of arrogance to suggest we march up to Pittodrie and steam roller the cup holders just because in your eyes they are pish, is actually wild to read. I must admit, i had a double take at the line up last night and was a tad confused but the manager knows his players and he felt it was right. Somebody even suggested the Well Society should be reminding Jens how important cups are....................jesus christ We lost, it was shite, lets get over it and move forward before this gets a tad toxic

We lost because two players fucked up. For me the team selection really wasn't to blame. The starting team, had we kept 11 men on the park, would have been good enough to take care of a piss poor Aberdeen team. The fact we were the better team with 9 men confirms that. The minute we went to 10 aside we pinned Aberdeen in, albeit our balls into the box were poor and we were trying to walk the ball into the net. The balls into the box didn't really improve after the changes. 9 corners and not one caused even a ripple of a problem for Aberdeen. Our set prices are one of the weakest parts of our game. However no one will convince me that the reason we went out was because of the team selection we went out because 2 players fucked up handing the tie to Aberdeen.

I do not think it was solely about the team selection, but it is difficult to ignore the role it played. The way we ask our goalkeeper to operate demands a particular skill set. I am not suggesting Connelly does not possess that ability, as he may well do, but introducing him in a fixture of that significance did not feel like the right call. It may even have been his pass that led to the situation which resulted in the first red card, if I am not mistaken. I have seen others make that point as well. As I mentioned earlier, cup matches are important enough that we should be fielding our strongest side. Connelly is a promising young goalkeeper, but he is not our first choice. Ward is. He should have started in my opinion. I don't think we're at a place where we can have a separate cup keeper. It is unlikely that this group of players will still be together if we do reach Europe. There is every chance that two or three will move on in the summer for decent transfer fees. Whether those who come in to replace them will be of the same standard is impossible to say at this stage. We would also be facing the challenge that most Scottish sides encounter in the qualifying rounds, namely going into competitive European ties with new signings in key roles who are still settling in, and possibly under a different manager as well. For me, the priority has to remain on the present. Each season, our objective should be clear and uncompromising. We should be attacking the domestic cups with real intent and giving ourselves the best possible opportunity to lift silverware.

Without getting too caught up in the detail of the guidelines, I do think recent decisions relating to ‘obvious’ goalscoring opportunities have been influenced by the VAR call to red card Trusty at Tynecastle and the fallout from the rejected appeal. The Falkirk one against Dundee Utd at the weekend was another example of trying to be consistent with the Trusty decision and appropriateness for VAR intervention.