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MJC ❤️ 😘 Hearts .

Zoom, just one look and then my heart went boom Shankands head, is the size of the Moon.

Zoom was a classic song

If you browse through some of the other SPL teams fan forums they're all saying pretty much the same thing. Welcome to close season in Scotland.

And probably "vice versa" too.

Its not so much the signing of Elliot Watt as an individual that I find strange but rather the circumstances of the move. Ok , he didn't set the heather on fire in Perth but neither did Theo Bair and we all know how that move turned out. With the caveat that we don't know the details behind the move, it seems odd that he's brought in just after JBA arrives. Now, it could be that he signed a PCA with us which would explain everything, but there's no indication of that. It seems very likely, but not 100% certain, that JBA signed off the deal, which must have been set up and progressed by someone else at the club. You would think that following Michael Wimmer's sudden departure, any pending moves would be put on hold until the new manger settles in, unless the player in question is of such a high calibre that time is crucial. Maybe there's a simple straightforward explanantion but ostensibly it seems odd.

Mind there was talk of us merging with airdrie when boyle first came in and the fans were going off there head about that,like you said I've never met a motherwell fan that has wanted to merge with any other club.ive also never known a Motherwell fan that thinks we're a tinpot entity either that's a smaller club than morton and Dunfermline,mjc is clearly making stuff up cause there isn't any games the now where he can predict we're going to lose every time.

Christ almighty.

I have literally never met a Motherwell fan who wanted us to merge with Accies. Ever.

Exactly - and whilst I disagreed with 5, 4 of them I have put not proven and in time that could be as high 8/9 that I agree with. All in, this is what I prefer in the forum. I felt that your post got skipped over without acknowledgement or debate as it was in this thread. Hopefully this triggers a few more comments rather than it was a meaningless friendly and we move on.

Let's be real shankland thing isn't gonna happen I'm not a fan of him personally I'd have taken him when he left Ayr he'd have been worth a punt to then sell on but that's long past now. What we need is a new goalkeeper or something for us to get excited about that's actually happening or has a feasible chance of happening

Last time i checked this was the Motherwell FC in and outs thread. We really need to get more signings to discuss that are relevant to us.

If they're paying him money that West Brom couldn’t or wouldn't match, that's a lot of eggs in one basket. What if he gets injured? Or he and Sunbed Sammy don't get on? As for professional athlete? He doesn't move the quickest for someone in shape...

Why is it folly? He is a proven goal machine and scored 70 odd goals for Hearts in three seasons. Perhaps if Critchley had played him in his proper position (No.9 instead of a 10) last season then that tally would be even higher and Critchley wouldn't have got the bullet when he did. I'm sure McInnes will get the best out of him going forward though. And 'fat Larry'? I keep reading this from his detractors, usually fans of Aberdeen, Celtic and Hibs. The guy is a professional athlete and there are plenty out there who wish they were as 'fat' as he is.

You're right in that he's way out of our league budget wise but if Hearts are spending that much on Fat Larry, it's an act of folly...

Lawrence Shankland and Motherwell FC can’t even be mentioned in the same sentence whilst keeping a straight face. If reports are correct he is about to sign a three year contract at Hearts which will make him their highest paid player, an offer which clubs like West Brom couldn’t compete with. I doubt even Rangers could have matched what Hearts are paying him. He is a top drawer striker and he’s at a club that can match his ambition and wages which no other club in Scotland except probably Celtic could dream of matching.

100% agree with you on that, as I’ve said previously I think the majority of the money will go towards a new training ground but I’d also expect some to be reinvested into the playing squad with the hope of getting someone who we can sell on at a profit to what he costs in wages etc

More signings will come with or without the Miller millions. I’m confident we’ll look to build a more balanced and financially sensible squad than we’ve seen in recent seasons. And that doesn’t mean scraping the barrel. It means prioritising quality over quantity.

That’s just your reasoned opinion versus mine, which is completely fair. Based on your response, my post seems pretty balanced: you agreed with four points and disagreed with five. The idea that views like mine somehow equate to pant-wetting insanity is, frankly, madness in itself. The long and short of it is—and this isn’t aimed at you—is that too many are more interested in posting reductive pish to take shots at anyone voicing an opinion, rather than offering anything constructively critical themselves.

Prudence should be the name of the game even if we get millions for Miller. The last thing we need to be doing is following the John Boyle Model of Recruitment & Financial Management.

To my way of thinking we won’t see many, if any, further signings in the next few weeks until the club knows what cash it’s going to receive from the sale of Miller. The club - or the society don’t have a few million stashed away that they can afford to lose if a big money move for Miller doesn’t materialise and although it’s unlikely to happen, prudence is the name of the game. I’ve no doubt that they’ll have spoken with players and possibly agreed verbal terms on the condition of Miller being sold but those players may still sign for another team meanwhile.

So irrespective of people saying no no no Wellfan it wasn't you - this is the post that instigated all the chat over it's just a friendly but the points made are much deeper and can be taken over a much longer time period. 1. Not Proven! Oxborough has shown enough to be a Motherwell first team player. But when he is injured there is some serious question marks over a suitable number 2. Ward didn't impress on his debut and over the next 5-6 games we can see exactly where he is. Balcombe was not good enough last season. The point of getting a good second keeper remains valid but maybe answered by Ward or not in the forthcoming games. 2. Guilty! Not based on last night but over a 6 month period. Wilson looks the back up and we need to sign a first team left back. 3. Guilty! over a long term we cannot afford a player who continually loses us sloppy goals - we cannot afford that over a season. 4. Guilty! Again we need a first team level central defender. 5. Not Proven! Too early to say on Elliot Watt his description is very much a Lennon Miller type player. Halliday as we know is not that. Again after 6-7 games we will know. 6. Not Proven! He was on fire playing in a wide position of a 3 when he first arrived. Now he's playing as a number ten. Play him as a winger and see if he can be what we need. I think he may be. 7. Not Guilty! Stama I rate highly but only in the right system - alongside a big number 9 and playing off him or with two wingers either side. Play to peoples strengths. Don't make him what he is not. 8. Guilty! Every foreign manager (see Valakari) tries this at first. They soon learn! 9. Not proven! Last nights evidence didn't tell us much - but a little - what he is trying to do we do not have the quality to do. So irrespective of Twente game or not - these points should be taken over the course & considering they have all got very valid aspects to them - this is the real discussion.

To be fair - we've had a few signings that fans have thought were odd and have come good Pretty sure JBA will have done his homework on us and is aware of the teams weak points. Yeah. I think this is a very decent appointment.

I can see where you're coming from here. Where we differ perhaps is that I'm excited by JBA's appointment. A bold one certainly. However, he'll take some weeks to get up to speed with the squad with its shortcomings. As you say, many were obvious last season. However, its early in the transfer window and we have time to bring in a number of much needed reinforcements. Our immediate problem is that the League Cup kicks off in about 10 days time and we only have one more friendly arranged before then. I hope coaches at the club have been briefing him about our long standing shortcomings. I'm a little concerned about the signing of Elliot Watt. He's a strange signing and I just wonder who was behind that. No doubt he was presented to JBA as a fait accompli. On the plus side I'm not worried about Lennon Miller's departure as his influence on the team in the latter part of last season wasn't significant and we still finished 8th.

I couldn't agree more,the scottish game is pish cause there's far too many managers that play the same way and sign the same old guff players that float between premier league clubs,kettlewell is a prime example,shit manager that's filling his Kilmarnock squad with rejects from around the league.lets be honest McInnes to hearts,kettlewell to Killie and Pressley to dundee is grim.the safe pair and of hands patter is another way of saying there a shit manager.no manager needs to have experience of the scottish league to go and get results against the likes of livingston and dundee.im all for us breaking the mould again and going with a foreign manager,who knows how it will work out for us but i for one would have been on a downer before the season started if we had appointed one of the usual suspects in the scottish game.