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Aye had a good look around yesterday. Couldnt find anything remotely palatable under £600 without staying for a full week! Always wanted to go there but never managed previously with Scotland or Motherwell. If we were guaranteed to go thru, saving the money for the next round would seem like a smart plan. Unfortunately with Motherwell nothing is ever guaranteed! 😆😆😆

If the club were to take a more active moral stance on sponsorship, it would raise some uncomfortable and difficult questions. As raised on P & B, in such a scenario, should it stop selling alcohol at Fir Park? Its not ok to advertise alcohol but its ok to sell it?? Anyway as far as the new strip is concerned, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating as they say. Will it sell out?

The amount of strips home/away/3rd/centenary we have had over the past few years is ridiculous…………is it part of our contract with Macron that a kit has a one season shelf life ????? Some of these kits have been very popular and have sold out (light blue away/ off white away) surely they both could have been used a second season Feel sorry for parents of kids trying to keep them in the “ current “ strip

But some people have an inflated opinion of their own?

Skyscanner showing flight prices of £500 with massive layovers, 10 hour travel time around £6-700, watch it on't telly

I thought message boards were about opinions.....

I don't think I'd be looking at isolated transfer fees without looking at the underlying data sets. Kieran Bowie wasn’t bought purely because of goals scored over a few seasons. Clubs don’t price attacking players on raw goal output alone, otherwise half the market would make zero sense. They look at things like age curve, contract position, physical profile, league-adjusted output, projected development trajectory, injury history, resale potential and expected value over the life of the contract. That’s why younger players consistently command premiums over better current players. If you look across Europe over the last 5 years or so, players aged between 18-22 routinely transfer for significantly more than players 25+ with better immediate output. That isn’t my opinion, that’s just how recruitment models work nowadays. Same with the Raskin comparison. He plays for Rangers, is younger, has European exposure almost every season, and is sitting in a completely different transfer ecosystem. The Old Firm market is not the Motherwell market. I know we don't like that, but it's the truth. If we strip emotion out of it and look at Just objectively, here’s the career profile a buying club is probably looking at: 26 years old Spent years moving between Danish first and second division football Spell in Austrian second tier One very strong season in Scotland 3 World Cup goals, which absolutely helps visibility Now compare that to what I believe recruitment departments call “transferable asset value”. At 26, a club buying Elijah probably gets 3–4 peak years. At 18 like Lennon Miller, a club potentially gets 10+ years plus a second sale. That future value gets priced in. I think where I disagree is this idea that “performance merits a £Xm valuation”. Football doesn’t work like that. If it did, loads of players would be worth far more than they eventually end up moving for. Recruitment departments are increasingly data-led these days. They model future value, they don't tend to reward past performance all that much. Personally, I think Just has been phenomenal for us. But if I was sitting in a recruitment department trying to build a valuation model, I’m not getting anywhere near £10m (or even £6 million) based on one excellent Scottish Premiership season and three World Cup goals in a group-stage exit. And that’s not talking him down. That’s just how the market tends to price these things in my opinion.

Exactly I think sometimes people forget we're a football club and a commercial enterprise not a department of North Lanarkshire Social Work. It's all very well harping on about "ethos" and "values" but in the meantime we've got bills to pay.

I think I mentioned £10 million. Kieran Bowie at Hibs transferred for £6 million having scored 15 goals over two seasons. He doesn't currently get a game for Scotland and the Scotland team is not exactly blessed with goal machines. I think we agree that Motherwell will not get £10 million ( they will be lucky to get half this) for him but that does not mean that his performances do not merit a £10 million price tag. Rangers want £20 million for Raskin. It simply doesn't equate.

Does anyone know if we got paid a significant amount to turn the strip into an F1 jaiket with all the sponsor stuff ?

I think it is decent, might be tempted. If fans like it then buy it and if they don't no need to I personally wasn't a fan of 25-26 away kit and havent purchased even when reduced, though plenty I know like it On the flipside of the coin I liked the 22-23 Home kit and others didn't

What i find utterly bizarre is Glen's Vodka is a league sponsor partner you see it all over the place at games its hard to miss but clubs are not to allowed to have an alcohol sponsor its a bit ridiculous. As for new kit i like it and I couldn't care who the sponsor is tbh as long as they pay its good for me in a world where its probably getting harder and harder to attract any type of sponsor its probably very very slim pickings.

Within reason, it doesn't matter to me who our sponsors are. If we are going to apply moral criteria, where do we draw the line? What is acceptable to one fan might be completely unacceptable to another. If we are going to start applying moral criteria when seeking sponsors, we might be fishing in a very small pond. As for Lucky Tiger, I know nothing about them whatsoever.

I personally dont like the new kit but I don't buy them so im pretty sure Motherwell don't care 🤣

Financial security is a bold statement to make in the context of a football club, they are not allowed to advertise Alcohol or Tobacco etc but gambling is fair game, put a print of a tiger on your shorts for a no doubt 6 figure wedge of cash is a no brainer for the club, free money.

It was said literally at the top of this page.

very similar to the '87 strip. Just shows how diluted the amber has become over the years. Some similarities to the 09 top. The home strip often is a bit disappointing. aointing.

As someone who doesn’t mind a centralised badge and prefers white shorts, this strip should be my cup of tea. Sadly, there’s too much going on with it. I’m very surprised we didn’t go with a cleaner looking home kit after last year’s muddle. Talking of surprises, how have we ended up with lucky tiger? Even if due diligence has been upped after recent experiences, surely we have the financial security and morals to limit sponsorship to organisations that are aligned to our community and family values?

Are you MJC........Are you MJC........Are you MJC in disguise?? 🤪🤪

At this moment he is a whatever another team is willing to pay player, if and when the club gets a genuine bid then maybe we can discuss it, until then its all hypothetical made up BS.

Nobody said he was a £10m player at Motherwell. But he is a £4.5m player.

My jokes are in preseason too, so you have to work for it.

It's one of those shirts that will likely look pretty good as part of a whole kit, worn by footballers on a football pitch, but maybe not so much worn by the average Scottish guy with jeans and a pair of trainers. I'll likely wait and see what the training collection looks like this year.

Just before my time that one but yes it’s similar too.

It’s got a hoop and white shorts 💝