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Billy Davies

Because at the end of the day they'll have got him on a bargain. The guy wanted away so the clubs hands were tied. A price is agreed between the clubs undoubtedly in their favour because if it isn't Wimmer walks and we get fa.

You’ve clearly lived a very sheltered life if that’s your take here. People should always look after number one; not their boss or anyone else. Integrity means nothing in the context of commitment to your employer vs that to yourself or your family. I do what’s in the best interests of me and my family over what’s in the best interests of my employer, but that in no way means I am negligent or shit at my job. To the contrary in fact. I’m as pissed off as you are about Wimmer leaving, but life isn’t as black and white as you seem to be suggesting.

Trip advisor?

Wow, you seem like a guy that can really be trusted. By the way not everyone thinks like that and it may be normal for you , some folk actually have integrity and do what they say they will do. With the total exception of football of course.

Why would compensation be minimal he was our clubs manager, signed up on a permanent contract, just starting to rebuild the team for a new season. Motherwell FC invested a lot of time , effort and trust into this guy then he is more or less poached to another club. Family problems fair enough but to have a job lined up as soon as he leaves , starting immediately , well that doesn’t happen overnight does it. Stinks a bit. We now have to reorganise all our future plans , the direction the club was going with him and our signing targets . Then start all over again to find a new manager when two of our direct league rivals are doing the same in the same market place.. He's left us in the shit . We should be getting quite a bit of compensation to cover all this I would think. But it is the real world and we are Motherwell after all . So we will probably come out of this looking like a caring ,compassionate and understanding club , which in the cold light of day the whole thing will have cost us a lot.

Agree with you re not being in the lurch . it now makes a bit more sense why several old the old guard have been retained - with another change of manager we have the likes of Halliday , sod , McGinn and also retained likes of sparrow , slattery and I’m hopeful seddon. hopefully we have a new gaffer in place soon.

What about these colours for the new away kit? 🇩🇪

I agree. I don’t think anyone can ever call such appointments a mistake, although there should be recognition that there is a big element of risk involved, but that’s football. And that risk has unfortunately come to fruition. On your second point, I would say that he absolutely took the job knowing it could be a short thing for him to boost his CV. We’ve all done it. I’ve moved to a new post, promising them at least 3 years of service, when I was absolutely planning on using it to get me into another post elsewhere as soon as possible. It’s annoying when it happens against your interests, but it’s normal. Next…

With hindsight I can see how it’s being deceived as a mistake . Why oh why would his family decide to stay in Germany rather than move to Lanarkshire ? that part is always a bit of risk. As a club we’ve got a decent record of brining in an unexpected candidate . Over the years Butcher , Mcall ,McGhee , barroclough , gannon, brown , Alexander . Don’t think any recall any being obvious . we need a bit of stability and ideally one who’ll stick around for a bit akin to butcher , Mcall , Robinson .

A lot of Wimmer’s ‘plans’ will now probably be in the bin, whatever they were.

This is where I’ve got concerns. If, like some suggest, he’s been working his ticket for the past few weeks, with his end goal of leaving the club having already been decided in his head, then how much of his talk and action on squad preparation and recruitment for next season have just been him paying lip service? Was his heart in it? Etc etc. He’s not fully left us in the lurch per se. However, we now have to recruit a new manager and several new players, but who knows in what order that will now happen. With safety secured, it could still easily be argued that we’re now in a pretty weak place when it comes to getting things right for the next two seasons, at least. Dundee and Killie are probably in a similar place, but less so given different contexts. That said, this summer is going to be helluva exciting on the forums now. Almost Barmackesque.

Harsh but just my view,, everyone has their own take on it

Nick Daws comes in gor a lot of abuse on here, I'm sure most people couldn't pick him out in the street or have an idea what he does. He doesn't sign the players, that's the managers, he has come up with a few good ones too including Slattery who might be the next one to make us money. Unless MW has tidied things up, a boss sooner than Later would be preferable. Is there a list of released players yet?

Luke Armstrong going back to Carlisle by the looks of things Mark Hughes quoted as saying he previously tried to sign him , and if he had been manager in January wouldn't have allowed him to go on loan

We will just need to agree to disagree, I think it does, preparation for a new season doesn't just start in June. By the time we get someone in the door its likely to be mid June. He will know fuck all about the squad he inherited so has limited time to assess the options before he may need to head into the transfer market and the season starts in July. Our only saving grace is Dundee and Kilmarnock are in the same position.

You would imagine the club would sound out a name from the previous shortlist. That will depend on availability though. After the Wimmer appointment and with a bit of compo received albeit probably minimal, I trust the club to get the right man in.

Club took us all by surprise last time and done a lot of research. Hopefully will take their time again. I don't think Wimmer appointment was a mistake and I genuinely don't think he would have taken job if he knew a few months down line this would have happened.

It is a real shame to hear that Wimmer has gone. I was looking forward with some optimism to the new season for the first time in what feels like many years. It is both a surprise and not. You only have to look back six weeks ago on this thread to see us debate this very possibly. The conversation started at the time after a defeat (was it Aberdeen?) when he had that familiar thousand yard stare of Motherwell managers past as if it had finally dawned on him how limited the squad was in it's potential. My guess is that he did not really know what he was walking into with Scottish football (or at least a club with Motherwell's financial limitations) and that he started considering his exit around that time. My other wild unsubstantiated hunch ( that is what football forums are for) is that he had a half hearted attempt to promote himself for the Hearts manager just before we played them. 'Great club, great stadium, great fans' made him sound like MJC had written his script in the pre-match interview before the Hearts game. The only thing missing was to predict a Motherwell defeat so it was not an MJC prepared presser. The real reason for his departure will probably be a blend of personal and professional reasons. Like every Motherwell manager that has gone before him over the last 30 years he has contributed significantly to Motherwell's proud Premier League status. He left us in a better position than when he arrived. So thank you MW. Seemed like a really decent guy and I wish him all the best for the future.

Leaving in mid May isnt leaving us in the lurch. If he left in July then we would be fucked

Staff come and go at our football club. Some sooner than we would have liked. We go on as always. Modern football is a farce.

Yes. Michael Wimmer will have identified the number and types of player required, and maybe even specific individuals. That was his domain. He will then have passed that information to Nick Daws and tasked him with researching that requirement and progressing it up to a point. This will have been going on a few months. In short, Nick Daws, and maybe others at the club, will have a good handle on what has been going on and on recruitment planning. I'd expect us to appoint a new manager in the next 3 weeks or so and before pre season and before the window opens. The new man will already have an idea of how we've played and our shortcomings i.e. defensive frailties, powder puff attack and injuries. He'll then have to apply his own preferences and check that against Nick Daw's advice on what has been done. No players can be signed until July although some may have signed PCAs. I very much doubt that any new manager will completely rip up what has already been planned for months, although he may adjust it. My last word on Michael Wimmer. He did seem a decent sort of guy. I'm unsure from the official press statement however, whether Regensburg asked permission to speak to him. It only says that he informed us, after the final game, last Sunday, that he would taking up the post in Germany. If the club did know about this before Sunday then you'd expect our recruitment process to have begun before yesterday.

Yeah, I'd agree with this, although I'll also contradict myself and say I liked the 'Jester', 'Ajax' and 'Sash' strips. My gripe is when they dont use the badge and use just the typeface. I love our club crest - A thing of beauty. Anyway, I'd love us to get something closer to the 86-87 strip:

I don't agree with this. Surely, the manager will dictate the type of players that are needed and will have to become familiar with the squad before any instructions are passed to the recruitment team. Swimmer said during a few interviews that he had to compromise his approach because the players at his disposal couldn't execute his style of football. Recruiting before the new manager is in place and understands the abilities of the squad would be a serious error. Recruitment will now have to be late in the window.