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  2. Raskin or Just? Having seen that the Rangers are looking for £20million for Raskin . I feel if I was a manager I would go for Just and Watt and still have £13million spare to spend on a decent forward. Hope McInnes doesn't read this .
  3. Ya Bezzer!

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    It's just industry standard now. Every team in the Premiership put out three new kits last season except for Livingston. Hibs and Rangers put out 4. And it's been that way for a while. Celtic put out a change kit early last summer as their first released kit then only wore it once in January. In the past they have released 3rd or 4th kits and never actually worn them in a game. Everything in life these days is about extracting as much money from people as possible while wearing a 'we care' mask. It's the culture of the 21st century and goes way beyond football.
  4. That's the shortest essay you've ever written. Well done.
  5. I dont mind it, everyone turning into Gok Wan.
  6. You're clearly in the latter category.
  7. Some people have opinions. Some write essays. Others live in fantasy. £8-10 million.
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  9. wellfan

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    I wonder if the away kit will be in lime.
  10. Suprawell

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    Worst.kit.ever. Jesus Christ.
  11. Aye had a good look around yesterday. Couldnt find anything remotely palatable under £600 without staying for a full week! Always wanted to go there but never managed previously with Scotland or Motherwell. If we were guaranteed to go thru, saving the money for the next round would seem like a smart plan. Unfortunately with Motherwell nothing is ever guaranteed! 😆😆😆
  12. Kmcalpin

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    If the club were to take a more active moral stance on sponsorship, it would raise some uncomfortable and difficult questions. As raised on P & B, in such a scenario, should it stop selling alcohol at Fir Park? Its not ok to advertise alcohol but its ok to sell it?? Anyway as far as the new strip is concerned, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating as they say. Will it sell out?
  13. The amount of strips home/away/3rd/centenary we have had over the past few years is ridiculous…………is it part of our contract with Macron that a kit has a one season shelf life ????? Some of these kits have been very popular and have sold out (light blue away/ off white away) surely they both could have been used a second season Feel sorry for parents of kids trying to keep them in the “ current “ strip
  14. But some people have an inflated opinion of their own?
  15. Skyscanner showing flight prices of £500 with massive layovers, 10 hour travel time around £6-700, watch it on't telly
  16. Yesterday
  17. I thought message boards were about opinions.....
  18. I don't think I'd be looking at isolated transfer fees without looking at the underlying data sets. Kieran Bowie wasn’t bought purely because of goals scored over a few seasons. Clubs don’t price attacking players on raw goal output alone, otherwise half the market would make zero sense. They look at things like age curve, contract position, physical profile, league-adjusted output, projected development trajectory, injury history, resale potential and expected value over the life of the contract. That’s why younger players consistently command premiums over better current players. If you look across Europe over the last 5 years or so, players aged between 18-22 routinely transfer for significantly more than players 25+ with better immediate output. That isn’t my opinion, that’s just how recruitment models work nowadays. Same with the Raskin comparison. He plays for Rangers, is younger, has European exposure almost every season, and is sitting in a completely different transfer ecosystem. The Old Firm market is not the Motherwell market. I know we don't like that, but it's the truth. If we strip emotion out of it and look at Just objectively, here’s the career profile a buying club is probably looking at: 26 years old Spent years moving between Danish first and second division football Spell in Austrian second tier One very strong season in Scotland 3 World Cup goals, which absolutely helps visibility Now compare that to what I believe recruitment departments call “transferable asset value”. At 26, a club buying Elijah probably gets 3–4 peak years. At 18 like Lennon Miller, a club potentially gets 10+ years plus a second sale. That future value gets priced in. I think where I disagree is this idea that “performance merits a £Xm valuation”. Football doesn’t work like that. If it did, loads of players would be worth far more than they eventually end up moving for. Recruitment departments are increasingly data-led these days. They model future value, they don't tend to reward past performance all that much. Personally, I think Just has been phenomenal for us. But if I was sitting in a recruitment department trying to build a valuation model, I’m not getting anywhere near £10m (or even £6 million) based on one excellent Scottish Premiership season and three World Cup goals in a group-stage exit. And that’s not talking him down. That’s just how the market tends to price these things in my opinion.
  19. santheman

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    Exactly I think sometimes people forget we're a football club and a commercial enterprise not a department of North Lanarkshire Social Work. It's all very well harping on about "ethos" and "values" but in the meantime we've got bills to pay.
  20. I think I mentioned £10 million. Kieran Bowie at Hibs transferred for £6 million having scored 15 goals over two seasons. He doesn't currently get a game for Scotland and the Scotland team is not exactly blessed with goal machines. I think we agree that Motherwell will not get £10 million ( they will be lucky to get half this) for him but that does not mean that his performances do not merit a £10 million price tag. Rangers want £20 million for Raskin. It simply doesn't equate.
  21. AllyMax

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    Does anyone know if we got paid a significant amount to turn the strip into an F1 jaiket with all the sponsor stuff ?
  22. I think it is decent, might be tempted. If fans like it then buy it and if they don't no need to I personally wasn't a fan of 25-26 away kit and havent purchased even when reduced, though plenty I know like it On the flipside of the coin I liked the 22-23 Home kit and others didn't
  23. Spit_It_Out

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    What i find utterly bizarre is Glen's Vodka is a league sponsor partner you see it all over the place at games its hard to miss but clubs are not to allowed to have an alcohol sponsor its a bit ridiculous. As for new kit i like it and I couldn't care who the sponsor is tbh as long as they pay its good for me in a world where its probably getting harder and harder to attract any type of sponsor its probably very very slim pickings.
  24. Kmcalpin

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    Within reason, it doesn't matter to me who our sponsors are. If we are going to apply moral criteria, where do we draw the line? What is acceptable to one fan might be completely unacceptable to another. If we are going to start applying moral criteria when seeking sponsors, we might be fishing in a very small pond. As for Lucky Tiger, I know nothing about them whatsoever.
  25. Mccus28

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    I personally dont like the new kit but I don't buy them so im pretty sure Motherwell don't care 🤣
  26. Spiderpig

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    Financial security is a bold statement to make in the context of a football club, they are not allowed to advertise Alcohol or Tobacco etc but gambling is fair game, put a print of a tiger on your shorts for a no doubt 6 figure wedge of cash is a no brainer for the club, free money.
  27. It was said literally at the top of this page.
  28. wellsince75

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    very similar to the '87 strip. Just shows how diluted the amber has become over the years. Some similarities to the 09 top. The home strip often is a bit disappointing. aointing.
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