Shotts Well Fan Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Samson sold the jerseys. This is what happens when you have a cut price goalie. A mixed bag with good savws but when you need him to do the easy stufff he fucks it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Some reaction from Wednesday eh? Massive lack of quality in so many areas. 2nd to everything throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshillWell Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 What was the Samson error? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 McGhee choosing to take off Cadden and put on a cart horse up front cost us. We went about 10 minutes near the end without putting two passes together. The only positive is that we did make chances so with Moult back we might be more competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Well that was a tough, tough watch. Dire performance in front of a small crowd and a flat atmosphere. First half performance was absolutely abject. Second half we improved but only in small spells here and there. Often we were just as bad as the first half. Chalmers failed to convince again, Samson made a howler to cost us the points, Clay remained as anonymous as ever, Johnson was so poor, there was no midfield, no energy, no second balls won, our passing and distribution was uniformly awful, players looked like they didn't want to be out there. We really didn't deserve to take the lead and when St. Johnstone equalized there was only going to be one winner. Will need to buck up significantly from that performance today but it seems fairly plain that outside the first XI we are really struggling. Don't know why Cadden was taken off today, if anything he should have gone into the middle, Ainsworth out right and Clay hooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 we were worth at least a point there today the game was dire, all i would say is Ainsworth was subbed 75 mins too late he contributed nothing at all, and as for Thomas coming on for him, he never looked like doing anything either. But the worst for me was taking off Cadden our most effective player and bringing on Blyth its the 1st time i have seen him this season but he looked lost. Oh and can anybody tell me why Chalmers gets anywhere near the 1st team he is utter dross, surely we have better tban that to cover for Hammell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Actually thought Clay did alright today and if I was going to sub anyone it would have been McDonald. He needs a boot up the arse. And at the risk of making myself even more unpopular, I don't think Chalmers had a bad game. Better than McManus. Manager made some bizarre decisions today that while I can't definitely say cost us the game, didn't seem to help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 It's a case of when Brill plays now not if. Could make a case for giving him a go at Ibrox where expectations are low and he'll probably be busy enough for us to make an informed judgement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Chalmers turns his back constantly never a defender dosnt tackle dosnt block crosses IMO he's a liability 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Chalmers turns his back constantly never a defender dosnt tackle dosnt block crosses IMO he's a liability So not too dissimilar to Steven Hammell... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Actually thought Clay did alright today and if I was going to sub anyone it would have been McDonald. He needs a boot up the arse. And at the risk of making myself even more unpopular, I don't think Chalmers had a bad game. Better than McManus. Manager made some bizarre decisions today that while I can't definitely say cost us the game, didn't seem to help... Totally agree about McDonald, I would have taken him off as well. Thought he was awful today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 I’m not long back in from work. So were we really that shit, or is there some hope for the season ahead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Chalmers turns his back constantly never a defender dosnt tackle dosnt block crosses IMO he's a liabilityThought Chalmers made a couple of mistakes today but so did every single one of our back four. If Chalmers had misjudged the ball as McManus did in the first half letting their striker run in on goal or whack a clearance off a fellow defender almost leading to a comedy own goal as Heneghan did, the East Stand would have been all over it. The guy hasn't had a run of games in one position. Do I think he will turn out to be good enough to replace Hammell at left back? I don't know but he's not the trainwreck everyone is keen to paint him as. In the three games I've seen him this season, not once has he been the worst Motherwell player on the park... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellarmy Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 we were worth at least a point there today the game was dire, all i would say is Ainsworth was subbed 75 mins too late he contributed nothing at all, and as for Thomas coming on for him, he never looked like doing anything either. But the worst for me was taking off Cadden our most effective player and bringing on Blyth its the 1st time i have seen him this season but he looked lost. Oh and can anybody tell me why Chalmers gets anywhere near the 1st team he is utter dross, surely we have better tban that to cover for Hammell Ainsworth contributed nothing? What about Lasley, McDonald, Clay, Johnson? As usual Ainsworth gets it in the neck, wasn't the best but by nowhere near the worst. As a whole the team were shite. On a side note, some of our fans are absolute roasters especially the guy who kept shouting JUMP!!!! every time the ball went into the box plus his desire for McFadden getting on was beyond cringeworthy. Overall a shite day and a shite game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 I think the big problem today was for the first half our midfield was invisible for long periods of time. With a lack of creativity at times this left McDonald very isolated. This is going to go against a lot of people's opinions but I think there's player in Craig Clay. A few times he's looked for the ball and he's been ignored. The few times he got the ball into feet led to the few chances we created in the first half. I think once he finds his feet and gets more involved he'll be the guy who'll be the central playmaker, with Cadden as the box to box mid and Carl McHugh sitting as the Ball winner. I think Lasley gets phased out of the team this season. As for his MOTM award today, I just don't get the thinking behind that. As for Samson, it's a shame he made the mistake, but he seems like someone who struggles under pressure, I think we'll see Brill in goal at one point, a very good keeper to have on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleeastdave Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Personally I think Marvin has also been affected with all the transfer talk, even although he was one of our better players today, that is how bad the rest of them were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 This is going to go against a lot of people's opinions but I think there's player in Craig Clay. A few times he's looked for the ball and he's been ignored. The few times he got the ball into feet led to the few chances we created in the first half. I think once he finds his feet and gets more involved he'll be the guy who'll be the central playmaker, with Cadden as the box to box mid and Carl McHugh sitting as the Ball winner. I think Lasley gets phased out of the team this season. As for his MOTM award today, I just don't get the thinking behind that. Totally agree. I think a midfield three of Clay, McHugh and Cadden could work. All pretty mobile and physical. Clay didn't play too many incisive passes today but like McHugh any time I have seen him, he doesn't give the ball away too often... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Actually thought Clay did alright today and if I was going to sub anyone it would have been McDonald. He needs a boot up the arse. Same as last season then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Same as last season then?I'd fine him for the handball alone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Not great, was it? Whilst I think we could make some justified complaints and observations about the performance we can't complain about the result itself. A fully merited victory for St Johnstone. There wasn't a huge amount to get excited about in either half bar a couple of long range efforts that were tipped over and the ball from Johnson that went across the goalmouth in the first half. Annoyance at the result is of course made all the more frustrating firstly that after being second best in that first half we managed to get ourselves in front, but couldn't hold it far less build on it, and that we gifted them their winner. Of course we're a few bodies light but it was hardly a display that filled you with great hope for the season ahead. I've done a power of whinging about Wednesday night but it really has seemed to have sapped whatever momentum had been building beforehand. It was fairly lacklustre and uninspired performance. One of the few positives was the opportunity to see Blyth make his league debut. Not exactly a game changing performance but he won a couple of decent headers and hinted that there may be a use for him, particularly if the hoof up the middle from the goalkeeper is persisted with. No, not great at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Largely uninspiring way to kick off our season at home, albeit not unexpected given our league cup performances. I think today highlights the consequences of our tightening budget: - We have went with a low cost mediocre keeper in order to invest elsewhere in the team - Pearson is yet to be replaced. Clay might do a job but he's not the man to drive us on and feed our forwards. - We have no cover for the increasing injury prone Hammell. You might get away with one of the above but the accumulation of all three leaves you with a disjointed and incompetent team. That could make for a very hard season if not addressed. As an aside, has there been any word on ST sales? We're still in holiday season but it seemed quieter than normal for the opening home game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Pretty much agree with that. Chalmers wasn't the worst and in the first half anyway he did his job well. Clay also seemed to do well and I thought the game bypassed Keith today. It's a case of when Brill plays now not if. I also agree with that. Clay started poorly but grew into the game and made some good forward passes. Chalmers was far from the bomb scare I was expecting. A couple of lapses aside I thought he was fairly steady. St Johnstone much the better side for 30 minutes of 1st half but we started to create chances. We score then have 2 or 3 other decent chances to get a second. St Johnstone equaliser was good work from Swanson. Still at this stage it was fairly even until Samsons blunder. As mentioned it has been an accident waiting to happen. He has flapped at many shots and parries and spills quite a lot. We're it not for that we could and perhaps should have had a draw. Cadden was poor before he was hooked, but bringing on the ineffectual Blyth in his place did not help our cause. I so want Thomas to succeed and I get the argument that with 10 to 15 minutes here and there it is tough to contribute. But again he had 2 to 3 decent chances and fluffed it.... Be interesting to see if McGhee sticks by Samson or gives Brill a run out. I know my preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 The whole team chucked it when they took the lead and yet there was still 15 minutes left! Where are the leaders?!?! That must be the easiest lead an away team has ever had to defend. No late flurry, telling cross, drive, fuck all! Last season when we got horsed by Hearts we responded by losing the next fixture 2-1 at home so there's the added worry this team doesn't bounce back well.... The whole back four is extremely suspect to say the least and McDonalds handball?! Sums him up. Samsons mistake for their winner was probably worse than anything I ever seen Neilson, Hollis or Twardzik do. Is Brill any better? Pathetic showing for the first home game of the season next week will no doubt be another insipid surrender and mauling..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Cadden was poor before he was hooked, but bringing on the ineffectual Blyth in his place did not help our cause. I don't think Blyth being ineffectual was so much the problem as switching to 442 left us short in midfield handing them the upper hand. I don't disagree Cadden was poor but Lucas could have been brought on for him and Blyth for McDonald and kept the same shape... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 i still can't believe we have went into this season with samson as our number one,the guy is a total nightmare and always has been.if brill can recapture the form he showed when he first went too inverness then he will be a good signing,it's time too see what he can offer and drop samson before he can do anymore damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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