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Motherwell v St Mirren 27/10/2021

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16 minutes ago, JSR said:

Tv pictures show Kelly about 2 feet off the line when the kick was taken

Haven’t seen it from a conclusive angle but his right foot looks on (or very close to being on) the line.

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What a whirlwind second half. Extremely disappointing not to win it after being 2-0 up.

 

Where on earth would we be without Watt, Ojala and Kelly.

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Seriously worried now Apart from 10mins at start of 2nd half we were woeful.  no idea what the midfields job is they dont defend and they don't attack. Aimlessly umping the ball forward time and time again to zero effect.  And don't get me started on our corners !

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We showed a bit of composure at the start of the second half and were in total control,mugabis cunt of a pass just before there first goal was embarrassing but we should have defended it better,grimshaw let his man run off him and did kelly need to be that far out.the penalty was a farce,there player ran into ours as for the retake,aye it's the rules but how often does it get enforced,it'll be interesting the next game madden is involved in that there's a similar incident.we were shite for the most part but it's definitely two points chucked away.

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Context is everything when it comes to draws.

And if you are 2-0 up at home with fifteen minutes left and you don’t win then that is two point thrown away.

Never mind whether you think the penalty decision was harsh( I’ve not seen it again so can’t say) or whether the re-take was harsh (again, I’ve not seen it again but reports on here and Twitter suggest that Kelly was off his line when the ball was struck, in which case that would have made it the correct decision), we were in a winning position yet threw it away. 
 

That, in my view, is totally unacceptable and unprofessional.

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7 minutes ago, GazzyB said:

 

 

Where on earth would we be without Watt, Ojala and Kelly.

Kelly has made a cunt of it four games in a row now. 

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Just now, steelboy said:

Kelly has made a cunt of it four games in a row now. 

If it was not for Kelly we would have lost that comfortably

 

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24 minutes ago, JSR said:

Tv pictures show Kelly about 2 feet off the line when the kick was taken

Off the line, His hand nearly hit the post when he saved it ffs a total bullshit decision to order a retake plus it was never a pen in the 1st place Sol never moved and the St Mirren player ran into him, Madden is a total bawbag of a referee. 

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2 minutes ago, Coatsy said:

If it was not for Kelly we would have lost that comfortably

 

That’s what I take from the game too. 
 

We were dreadful for the majority and looked second best, yet we managed to find ourselves in a very winnable position thanks to the one player we have who is capable of making a difference only to throw it away as soon as we were put under any pressure.

As a team we are utterly dismal.

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2 minutes ago, Coatsy said:

If it was not for Kelly we would have lost that comfortably

That double whammy of saves at the very end stopped us from losing. He was the difference tonight between us getting a point or getting hee haw.

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3 minutes ago, Coatsy said:

If it was not for Kelly we would have lost that comfortably

 

He made 1 good save at the end. Apart from that I don't remember any great saves. 

He was shocking at the first. 

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1 minute ago, steelboy said:

He made 1 good save at the end.

Two good saves. They were literally seconds apart man, come on! 

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Just now, steelboy said:

He made 1 good save at the end. Apart from that I don't remember any great saves. 

He was shocking at the first. 

No he wasn't, he was left one on one with the entire defence at least 10 yds up the park and staring at the linesman. The left back, who's channel the ball was played into was nowhere to be seen.

 

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1 minute ago, AllyMax said:

No he wasn't, he was left one on one with the entire defence at least 10 yds up the park and staring at the linesman. The left back, who's channel the ball was played into was nowhere to be seen.

 

It was the same as Tynecastle he made an arse of it. 

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34 minutes ago, JSR said:

Tv pictures show Kelly about 2 feet off the line when the kick was taken

I watched it on TV, I really don't think both feet were off his line

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It's arguable whether it's possible to judge with TV pictures if you can tell if the goalie moved before the ball was kicked. 

It's impossible with the naked eye unless it's totally blatant. 

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1 minute ago, steelboy said:

It was the same as Tynecastle he made an arse of it. 

Nah, it was a hell of a finish for the goal. Not often you see them sneak in.

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1 minute ago, AllyMax said:

No he wasn't, he was left one on one with the entire defence at least 10 yds up the park and staring at the linesman. The left back, who's channel the ball was played into was nowhere to be seen.

 

I agree with that,if brophy had put it wide then it would have been seen as a decent decision by kelly to come out.his team mates in front of him put him in an impossible position,it was a simple ball played forward into space,mcginley was daydreaming and grimshaw had no awareness as he just let his man run off him.

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From that picture it looks like both feet are off the line, albeit the right foot is close.

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It all depends on the officials,9 times out of 10 that wouldn't have been brought back for a retake,it's just our fucking luck it went against us tonight.

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Looks to me like the right heel is on the line, which is allowed, right?

 

It was a penalty for me. I don't think Madden was too bad tonight. You've got to remember the lino gave that decision above.

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1 minute ago, texanwellfan said:

Is the rule 1 foot or both feet ? 

Only need the one foot.

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