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Our last 4 games have just reinforced the fact that we're one of the better bottom 6 teams, but not good enough to be top 6.

No change there then.

Basic defensive errors cost us and good players/strikers punish you at this level. Also that’s now 43 league loses to Rangers and counting which is not a record to be proud of. Another disappointment is the inevitable fine we will receive for the lighter that was thrown by some idiot in the crowd. This is money that we can ill afford to pay and I hope the individual who did it is caught and punished for their actions.

"Best chance ever" "Let's get in about them" "Nothing to fear" etc. etc. (taken from the script for the past 20 years)

Re lighter. If ref does his job and insist the throw in is taking from correct place, then the incident probably does not happen. Rangers have done nothing and weve gifted them two goals.

I am going to make you all jealous. I was there the night the boys in blue got beat 5-2 by the boys in claret and amber. I was only 10 but my dad took me along to Ibrox. It was school night but I will always be grateful to him for taking me. Unfortunately he also took me to the next round when we lost 1-0 at home to Airdrie. I think this was the game that pissed off my hero Ian St John and he left soon after.

Robinson said beforehand about learning how far we'd come. He'll have learned that we have a good way to go! But whilst that much is true, but I suspect he won't quite have got the gauge he was hoping for because I think we are better than what we showed for the bulk of the game today and we didn't come close to showing what we can do against a side like that when at full pelt. I know it's easy to mock those who harbour such thoughts given the utterly appalling league record but I did go into the game with a quiet confidence. I did think we had an opportunity and was quite excited at the potential within us to give them a game. But we didn't really convert our early dominance into any genuine goalscoring chances and any real hope of making it a contest was quickly destroyed by our own defensive frailties. Okay Arfield finished things off but the players who created most dangerous players today generally wore claret and amber. I'm inclined to think it unfortunate that our defenders seemed to have absolute nightmare and turned in some of their worst displays in ages all on the one day. Don't get me wrong even at our best there's plenty of room for improvement but credit where it's due the defence has improved markedly in recent times and has been adequate enough. Not today though of course... He didn't influence the outcome but the referee's performance is perhaps worthy of a word or two. To say he was inconsistent in his response to similar demeanours is being kind. There is also the throwing of objects. In all honesty I really like the fact that plenty opposition players and supporters view the East Stand a cesspit. There's a whole power of good that can come from the support/venom that comes out of our stand but there's lines that cannot be crossed and one or two have crossed them today. The most annoying thing is that it will give the shower behind the goal the feeling of holding the moral high ground over us. Now personally I'm not going to take any lectures off a support that didn't get to see their team presented with their only European trophy because their fans were tangoing with Spanish riot police, but we can be sure that many of those who routinely have selective deafness in the commentary and press boxes of the land every Saturday won't be shy in making an example of us. I do think there have been some lessons to be learned over this past week though. From working out how to break down a really physical St Johnstone side last weekend, to dealing with the adversity that came with fortuitous goals at the keeper injury in midweek to how not to shoot yourselves in the foot against a clinical opponent today. I would like to think that there are a number of our team who will be the better for those experiences. It's been a little badge of honour that Old Firm sides haven't won at Fir Park for a wee bit so for that record to go so meekly today is a bit of a disappointment but given the top six was already out of reach it had a slight air of a free hit about it, so it's a case of bank the positives of the experience and quickly put it behind us and pump Accies again in a fortnight.

And we've beat them in that time at least three times... and also taken points of them... this season.

Our midfield in particular was poor today ,rangers were comfortable throughout the match and worthy winners ,but we have this uncanny knack of making a decent rangers side look like world beaters .

Rangers have pressed our defence and we simply cant cope!

The only surprising thing today is people are surprised at this performance. We do this every time. Rangers could field their Walking Football team and we'd still find a way to capitulate.

Get Main off. Offered nothing.

Thought Dunne has been up there with the best performers this season so I’ve got to disagree with you there. We had a disastrous start to the season without him, especially his strength and pace.

Yes it demonstrates the subtle importance of amber over the more commonly used yellow. I’m always dismayed when clubs play fast and loose with their branding and signature colours. We chose our colours for a good reason and we should never ever take them for granted. Clubs are more conscious of branding these days and Motherwell have made great strides in this department in recent years. On this forum I’ve campaigned on several MFC branding and kit issues and it’s heartening to see a few of them have been taken on board. The introduction of the original MFC monogram rather than the bog standard script font on kits/training wear was a huge step forward. I was boring myself with the amount of times I mentioned/campaigned for it on here. They got so bored with my whining that they ask me to draw it for them. Modern takes on classic kits is another thing I have pushed for and it’s been heartening to see a few modern retro inspired offerings like the 70s sash kit or our original blue top combined with C&A. The 125 retro anniversary was another milestone that recognised our 1960s signature top. So I’ve been quietly happy with the way our kits have been going recently, however, I just wish we could afford to ditch the Betting Dot Com sponsor as it ruins the kit. Or perhaps agree with the sponsor to allow us to sell a non sponsored version along side it.