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Gillespie, Tait, Carroll, Dunne, Hartley, Heneghan, Johnson, McHugh, Moult, Main, Bowman. A conceivable eleven all signed from League One and below since a director of recruitment was installed to focus on those levels. That's not including Carson, Long, Frear etc. nor Kipre who came higher up from Leicester. Not world beating sure, but enough in there from those individuals to keep the team in the division, get to two Cup Finals that were not to mention any more because we didn't win, a third place finish that seemingly doesn't really count, and helped contribute towards the club moving to a debt free position. But aye, a lot of shite. Get rid of the Director of Recruitment. Don't look for players at that level any more. Can the recruitment be smarter? Absolutely. Have there been bad signings? Definitely. But dismantling the whole set up is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It's toys out the pram stuff. Here's another eleven. As signed by the greatest modern day manager in Motherwell's recent history, some say. Took us to third too. Kept us in the division. Even won that Cup that thirty years later they still talk of. Still managed to sign every single one of this lot though along the way. Gardiner, Sneddon, Murray, Maaskant, Jones, Shanks, Caughey, McCabe, Baker, Shepstone, McLeod

A Cup Final is success for every team in Scotland except the OF and maybe Aberdeen. Nobody in Scotland has been able to get close to Celtic for several seasons now. If Celtic were to lose in a Champions League Final to Barcelona would that been seen in Celtics history as success or failure? You mention the lucky cup run. Others mention the lucky 3rd place. Why is it that when teams allow us to dominate and hit us with the sucker punch, they are streetwise/ have us sussed, but when we do it to other teams we are lucky? I do not understand the determination to undermine our clubs success?

Campbell, Turnbull, Hastie, Scott and Maguire are all Scotland U21 internationalists that have played for Motherwell over the last two years. That's five alone. McKinstry and McAlear have been snapped up by an English Premiership side and one that twelve months down the line was. They are two of the players that would likely be added to that list. Off the top of my head, and whilst their numbers may have been limited Livingstone, Devine, Cornelius, MacLean and Semple have all come through the youth system and played in the first team over the last two or three years. The players that have come through the Academy and played over the last three years could quite conceivably generate something like £10,000,000 in tranfers and add-ons. I think your constant banging the drum for youth development is noble but you are miles out in terms of what has already been delivered by the Academy and to repeat my response when you made much the same point a week ago, I think it is unrealistic bordering on the naive to expect eleven youth team players who are first team ready to slot in at a moments notice.

ive seen robbos boy play lots of reserve games last season and hes well worth a shot on the wing[gets lots of crosses in first time] better giving him a go when theres no fans in thou as one mistake and the boy might never recover

Spoil sport

I liked Dave McCabe!!! You are absolutely right in what you say however. People forget the rougher spells under Tommy McLean. The cup final victory and a third place finish are the headlines (and great headlines they are) but not every performance under Tommy McLean was a cup winning performance. The same can be said for every manager we have had spanning the last 5 decades, some good, some bad (that we have been in the top flight since the 80's in itself is a minor miracle). It is a very dangerous game as a Motherwell fan not to enjoy the rarity of two cup finals in one year or a third place finish. Anybody undermining those achievements, or not getting joy from these achievements, may need to consider if Motherwell is really the team for them. Bigger clubs than ours in Scotland have not enjoyed this kind of success in recent times. Fans of Hearts, Hibs, Dundee Utd to name just a few, would love to have had the success Motherwell have enjoyed during Robinsons time at the club. The start to the season has been very disappointing. The performance against Hibs last week matched pre-season expectation and we need to hold onto the positives of that game for now. Like a few others have said, a few minor adjustments and a favourable wind may just be enough to ignite the season. I still believe this is a good squad of players and I very much believe that Robinson is a good manager. I would be hugely disappointed if we lost to Glentorran and maybe if we did my resolve would waver a little but teams like Stjarnan and Albion Rovers remind us that these kind of results are in our DNA . I believe it will come good but not before a difficult and possibly painful trip to Celtic Park.

Not a great start to the season. When you throw in how we were playing before the previous season was curtailed and you can see that the pattern is very much one of recent underachievement and a downward spiral towards the championship. I would discount preseason because of the abstract circumstances we, and everyone else, found themselves in. The recruitment looked promising but that now looks, like our third place finish, like a false premise. In short, we are in the mire and need to find a way out of it. What seems to be lacking, on every level, is leadership. I appreciate that playing without a crowd is going to be a new experience, but it falls on the players to motivate themselves and their teammates. I quite understand the footballing rationale behind the decision to let Peter Hartley go, but I doubt he would have been happy with the standards that the current side is setting, and he wouldn't have been slow in telling them about it. If the senior professionals cannot find it within themselves to take on that mantle then we need to look elsewhere for someone who can supply it. with regard to our current woes up front, we probably need to look at the qualities of the players we ave and try and get the best out of them. I feel Robinson has been guilty of looking for versatility in his forwards rather than using what we have to the best of their abilities. I wouldn't discount any of them yet, but they all have something to prove. The road to redemption should start at training on Monday. The riot act should be read and those who don't fancy the hard work and fight to get us out of the mess we find ourselves in should be told that their futures lie elsewhere. We have the chance of getting some much needed cash from our European adventure and then basically a free hit against Celtic. If there are no visible signs of improvement in these two fixtures then things begin to look pretty bad for Robinson. I am generally not in favour of reacting in such a drastic manner, but there does come a time when a manager has nothing left to offer. I sincerely hope we are not there yet.

Well he can go and take the rest of the under-performers with him if that is remotely true. Whether you like or agree with the Manager he is the boss and for the most part a good one at that. Robbo has claimed he has not berated anyone publicly, but in a round about way he has. Even saying today the subs he made - made no difference. Harsh but true. What he has said that is true is that this club has been good to a lot of players. Stuck by them when injured. Given them a platform to perform. Sold on many players and given them massive career and earnings boost. If they can’t take a little criticism then maybe they should fkin start playing like they care as we all know they are capable of more.

It's worth a go.. We have shite wingers, so bench them and our strikers are shite on their own, so pair them up

Stopped reading at O’Hara. Hailing his empty jersey as one of our best signings tells you all you need to know.

formation seems to be his biggest strength and major weakness. He finds something that works and we have a purple patch of 15 games, teams catch on and figure out to manage us and we go on a run of 15 poor games until Robinson finally through desperation looks for a new formation. A worse manager would be fired. A better manager would be at a bigger club. His 15 games are almost up so hopefully he's now desperate enough to change it.

If and its a big if, SR moves on or is shown the door I only hope we conduct a proper recruitment process and steer well clear of the the useless has beens like Tommy Wright or unproven guys like Lasley. We have been utter garbage since January but it is very early in the season and SR has earned the right to try to get us back on track, so the Glentoran game is critical lose it and SR is gone, if as expected we win that could kick us on to start winning again, so to paraphrase corporal Jones from Dads Army and Oasis "don't panic,,,least not today"

Personally I thought we were very good in the Aberdeen game and ran them ragged.

For me it's the opposite. That we are sitting on 2 points after 5 games and actually played fairly well, from the back to the middle, is conceg because that tells me that this is the best this team can serve up and yet we find ourselves winless because our attacking options, and we have several of them, just aren't good enough. I don't see how things will improve because we just don't have the quality to create and take goalscoring chances. I don't have much faith in Robinson and our scouting team to source a decent, goalscoring forward either, they seem incapable of it! And when, not if, Turnbull leaves in the new couple of months we are going to be in serious trouble, because he is our only attacking quality from the middle. And also a side point. You and others refer to 'the cup success of prior seasons. Firstly, we have had NO cup success. We lost two cup finals in 17/18 where we didn't lay a glove on Celtic. Sure the League Cup run was impressive, but the Scottish Cup run of that season was actually the flukiest I've ever seen. Own goals against Accies and Dundee, Hearts goalkeeper chucks us one, they play usnoff the park before McHugh pulls a stunner from nowhere, then Aberdeen turn in what must have been their worst defensive performance in decades in the semi. I enjoyed it at the time but don't kid yourself, it was a very, very lucky Cup run.

Fresh air kick by O’Donnell and the boy should’ve scored isn’t creating ,other teams don’t gift chances like that. For a defence with 2 Scotland internationals , we are really soft . Actually thought Lammie looked ok .

Yep I’ve pointed out something similar in the past. This theory that the signings from lower level have all been rubbish is simply not true. I remember when we signed Aldred from Bury and Carroll from Cambridge, both were rubbish by all accounts. As you say there have also been duds but name me a club running on a modest budget that only signs gems. Just getting rid of everyone is crazy talk.

Get a hold of yourselves, even joking about Hughes is a step too far, he’s fucking rubbish. If Robinson goes, Lasley is our next manager. But Robinson isn’t going anywhere.

Lose to Glentoran and he should fall on his sword. That said this is a Manager that helped us avoid relegation when he took over. Got us to 2 cup finals in a season for only the second time in our entire history. Got us finishing 3rd when there were 4 or 5 teams with bigger budgets. No one argued much when we retained Watt and re-signed Long. Bringing back Hastie seemed like a decent option. And White for all he has been average was ICT top goalscorer for a couple of seasons. I am not ashamed to admit I am a big Robbo fan. I think he as done a good job up until this year. I would be sorry to see him go but the forward players need to understand they are in the last chance saloon. No-one underperforming for us will get a better move. I know it is a parallel universes but I see some goals being scored / conceded and we have not had that kind of luck. Shots bouncing around and going in of a deflection or own goal. We have carried fuck all luck. Yes you make your own but not much has gone in our favour so far.

Robinson should be sacked! He has watched how poor we were in Jan/Mar, had a transfer window where he was backed to the hilt, and we are a disorganised shambles and if anything look WORSE than the latter part of last season. 2 wins from 14 and no wins this season is an utter fucking disgrace. However, scout extraordinaire Foyle will still be here, and Las will be the new manager so whats the point in sacking Robinson? Its just replacing clueless shite with more clueless shite. We either need to rip out everything, root and stem, or just keep Robbo and save any compo money for another fucking useless "striker" who can "play all across the front 3" Glentoran are a pub team who we should be beating by several goals, unfortunately its guaranteed we will scrape a 1-0 or maybe an extravagant 2-0 and the rest of the shite this season will be forgotten and the slate will be wiped clean cause weve won a fucking game.

I don't rate Chris Long at all. .

Is it hard being right all the time? I mean surely it must get a bit boring pontificating from your pulpit to all the plebs?