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On the subject of Killie this Swedish team Aberdeen are playing have a top class 4G pitch which the teams are actually able to play football on. If the league can't force Killie and Livi to put down grass surely they could make them use plastic that isn't utterly shite. The competitive and financial advantage the two plastic teams get from their shite pitches is a direct disadvantage to us yet we seem to do nothing about it.

He must've missed the first week back due to injury. Which explains why we've signed him.

Obika and Paton were incredibly lazy singings by Kettlewell and it's already coming back to bite him on the arse.

McCoist spoke the best line ever as a co commentator at the last World cup final. When Mbape scored his third goal the English commentator said "that's the first hat trick in WC final since 1966." And McCoist immediately said " and it's the first one where the ball crossed the line three times" Absolutely brilliant.

6 month loan to Kidderminster Harriers.

Oooh Betty!

I'm presuming the player out is Barry Maguire. Kettlewell said today that Maguire leaving should allow us to get one over the line which would be Spencer

I can almost smell the Steradent from these comments mate 😂

And finally, with 3 international caps already, let's be "frank", this could be a really good signing 😜😜

What a feckin long winded whinge you really do go Into meltdown mode over things, okay so your not impressed by our recent signings, fair enough just say that then and move on to your next debating project. When you support Motherwell every season is an adventure will the players signed be sugar or shite, will we win anything, stay in the league, unearth a 29 goal a eason star etc etc, you pay your ticket money and take a chance. So just enjoy it we've been doing okay in the top league for 38 years now, loads of European tours, a few cup finals, a champions league spot so let's see how the season pans out and have this debate in January or next summer when we are entering year 39 as a top league side.

Aye, slagged off by the typical negative Nancy's in our support. I thought both were very solid in their first season. They're exactly the kinds of players we should be signing. That's our level. But, the point I'm making is that the calibre of players we've signed this year is down on previous seasons. And by that, I mean their form and track records before coming here. When we signed McGinn and Spittal, I looked at their previous records and reckoned there was a better-than-average chance of them succeeding here. I'm not saying the same about the guys we've signed so far. There are. But that doesn't negate the point that signing someone with the track record of a Theo Bair to a two-year deal, no less, is a relatively new low for our club. And by "the same old posters," I will assume you don't mean me because I've had no reason to doubt our signings for the most part in recent years. This summer is different. We're signing what can only really be described as losers to this point. Guys who aren't good enough for St Johnstone, and in Obika, we signed a striker who scored one solitary goal for us last season. As I mentioned, in the past, we'd be grabbing guys like Bair and Obika on six-month deals at the tail end of the window or in January to make up the numbers (in Obika, we did exactly that last season). These are now players who look like they'll feature fairly prominently for us this season, and that worries me. Yeah, I get all that. You're acting as if I'm new to this team. I'm not. I've been watching them since the mid 80's. And at absolutely no point have I mentioned buying instant success. That's just stupid. What I'm saying, and what absolutely no one seems to be willing to accept, is that the players we've signed this summer have track records that strongly suggest they'll accomplish the square root of fuck all at Motherwell. We've seen guys like this come through the doors before, and they usually do nothing before leaving quietly after six months to a year. The only difference this year is that they're not here for six months to a year. And they're the best we have on the books, which is as depressing as it gets. I'm usually a "glass half full" guy, but honestly, watching how we're playing at the moment and the unimaginative signings we're making has me worried. It's as simple as that. And I know, everyone else is happy to give these guys until January to show us that they can defy their recent track records (or, in the case of Bair, completely turn his entire professional career on his head), which is fine. I don't think they'll accomplish much, and I'm thoroughly uninspired by our signings so far. That's allowed, I think.

Spittall and McGinn were regularly slagged off as useless in their first season, so not sure that is a good measure of player quality. Same for Goss who many fans were saying was no big loss in the summer. There are countless examples of players we have signed taking a few months to settle in, but every August we see the same old posters rolling out the same tired script. I can only imagine how bad it would be if we'd lost a league match this season. Part of the fun of watching a team like ours is seeing new players and youngsters develop over the course of a season. That is never a straight line progression. If you want a team to buy instant success then Motherwell is not for you. Even Chelsea are struggling with that approach. Grab a beer (or beverage of choice) and enjoy the ride. It's why we love the game.

Definitely happened , but he was never allowed to open the gate again . The Killie goalie was Allan Combe.

There's no version of David that would ever look at handing someone like Theo Bair a 2 year deal, or signing Obika being a good idea 😂

If it was on their god awful plastic pitch i wouldnt be hoping for much but with it being at home im thinking 1-1, Bair to score

The fact that we are a week from the window closing and we are 4/5 starters short is criminal. Right from the moment when he brought Paton to the club it was clear Kettlewell didn't have a clue what he was doing in the transfer market. I said at the beginning of the window he had never made a good signing and with a week to go it remains true. 10 days to turn it around.

The Club is and has been rudderless for quite some time. Flow was a breath of fresh air over the years, and that hard work papered over the many cracks, but he eventually left before the Club tainted him or he'd had enough, and now we're here. History is/could be repeating itself and will continue to do so. We either need a relegation reboot or an ambitious and intelligent CEO to turn us inside out and start afresh.