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You used to need a straw for the grease in the pie

Who knows , who cares but they never had any straws. Absolutely ridiculous when was the last time you had a coke a Fir Park with no straw . I think the WS should look into this as a matter of urgency. 🥤🥤. For illustration purposes only (there a straw in these ones)

RC are a big team set up to sit back, defend / bully and hope to get something on the break / set pieces. We can expect StJ, StM, Killie and both Dundee teams to do similar when they come to FP. I always thought we looked better away from home against those teams - Dutd apart - last season as those teams were more likely to attack us more when at home. The OF apart against Aberdeen and the Edinburgh clubs were the only ones to have a go at us at FP. I think that last season we would have lost yesterday’s game so I suppose we should be taking some good from that.

Totally agree. We will also have a decent number of supporters who for one reason or another aren't able to use the online option so you could say it discriminating against them.

Yep 17 year old Miller can't be expected to carry that midfield on his own needs some help and he isn't going to get that from Halliday that's for sure. Hope Kettlewell uses the loans to get some help in the midfield and add a creative spark to the squad. I shall say one thing I am so pleased with big Ox in goal think he will turn out good for us.Early doors but isn't shy about coming off his line which is a good thing.

We have no quality midfielders apart from Miller at the club the rest are jobworths and crocks who Kettlewell has signed . Need some good loan players in soon

You'd think so. Looking at the squad as a whole there's a dearth of pace and creatiivty in it. Surely 2 fundamental requirements when you are able to build a complete squad?

Don't think any of those things are exclusive to Motherwell's support. Probably applies to all teams at all levels. We have a limited support but I don't think we are 'poorly' supported. In a Scottish context we are probably a Top 10 club and probably only Kilmarnock and Falkirk get slighlty better supports from all the non city clubs.

Alexander had us Top 6 and it wasn't good enough. Might be a while until we finish that high again. It's just what supporters do now. They have the power through social media so they are going to bash the big red button. However it's almost always a case of destruction rather than construction. Don't always agree with his choices but if we finish above our position last term Kettlewell will have done OK in my view.

If the club is serious about increasing its fanbase and, therefore, home crowds and revenue, it seriously needs to consider employing a manager who knows what they're doing. No amount of excellent work by the WS and the new CEO will change that, as fans want to be entertained, even in defeat. This isn't a reactionary view based on the League Cup or today; rather, it's based on a view of Kettlewell's entire tenure, which indicates to me that there's been no real progress made in terms of the overall team performance and identity. He did well with Bair, for example, which I've acknowledged, so it's clear to me that he can coach players at some level and generate success in that aspect. However, a manager needs to be more than that. They need to be tactically astute. I understand why Kettlewell is still here and had his contract renewed, and that's simply because the club board has shown itself to be incompetent in recent times. Asleep at the wheel, perhaps, and taking the easy option due to the poorly managed clusterfuck surrounding Alexander and Hammell. So, here we are, and it's groundhog day. Ultimately, and unlike Alexander, Kettlewell isn't an arrogant prick and he seems to work hard, but he's just not very good at managing a top flight football team, and that's a shame. Taking last season into account, and given there's only one year left on his contract, I think it's a matter of when and not if now. Unless he has a good first half of the season, the calls for him to be replaced as we approach January will be deafening. It's probably fair to say that match day attendances will only continue to stagnate, at best, if he continues to serve up crap and sign duds and crocks. We'll reap what we sow.

Rhys McCabe for me

It's a carry over from the cup games and last season. 5 home wins in the league last season. 2 good wins all the way back in August 23 and since then we've beat a terrible Livi team twice and gubbed County on a night they were clearly trying to get the manager sacked. Kettlewell is completely incapable of sending out a team to win a game at home. Even the two good wins last season against Hibs and Killie we were very poor until we made subs. It's a horrendous record.

Unpopular opinion but if it someone offers £3-4m that’s being quoted for Lennon miller. I’m biting your hand off for it! This structure and style of football will ruin him

Yes because Semis/finals and a big day out at Hampden are appealing in themselves, the same goes for Euro games. But league games against Ross County or St.Johnstone don’t have that glamour and it seems that it’s that glamour and appeal that a lot of our ‘supporters’ really care about, not the club itself.

Our attendances are never going to increase regardless of the product on the park. Regardless of prices and financial climate our support is lazy and apathetic and has been for as long as I can remember. We have fans who just aren’t interested in going to run of the mill games but will come out of the woodwork for Cup finals and European games. And let me be as clear as I possible can be here. I am not talking about people who for whatever reason can’t go to games be that location, money etc. that’s their business. I am talking about people who absolutely could be at the game but they just don’t go, instead they’d rather sit in the pub or go to the bowling, the golf, the races or whatever. I’m sure most of us know at least one person who falls into that category. The sad reality is we are a poorly supported club and nothing that happens on or off the park will ever change that.

Can I just ask those slating Kettlewell, who should we bring in? Ye not brilliant today but hardly disastrous.

Correct and an absolute over reaction from the fans today. Sure there is a lot to improve but I've seen us play a lot worse than that today. Thought Wilson had a good game. Oxborough coming off his line for cross balls was good to see. Halliday doesn't have it for me nor does Blaney. Robinson lacks composure but puts in a power of work. Every set piece ball into their area was poor as it was last season. I do wonder how this is so difficult to remedy. As I said a lot to improve on but not the worst we will play this season.