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Update for the week to 26 October. Citations are now at 38,718, up from 36,310 last week. Most of this week went into going deeper on clubs already on the site rather than adding new ones. Twenty clubs re-checked from top to bottom Every claim on twenty club pages has been tried against the British Newspaper Archive, the Scotsman and Times archives at the National Library of Scotland, the Scottish Football Museum's archive, the club histories and annuals, and the web: Airdrieonians, Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Ayr United, Dumbarton, Dunfermline Athletic, Edinburgh City, Falkirk, Greenock Morton, Gretna, Hibernian, Livingston, Partick Thistle, Peterhead, Queen of the South, Queen's Park, Raith Rovers, Ross County, St Mirren and Stenhousemuir. Each page has new photographs of its grounds, old and new, and of the people it names. New on the site Scots Abroad has a new piece on James "Dun" Hay, from Woodside to Celtic, Newcastle United and Scotland, with thanks to Roy Hay for his help with it. Those Who Kept the Record, the page for the writers and archivists the site leans on, now includes Hugh Keevins and Michael Grant. The kits on every club page are now drawn as proper shirts, matching each club's real strips but without the sponsors. Club records now cover 52 clubs. Rangers' record wins now show both 13-0 Scottish Cup wins of 1877, over Possilpark and over Uddingston, thanks to Stewart Mathers, who sent the sources. The grounds map has 342 grounds, with Larkhall Thistle's Gasworks Park and Royal Albert's Tileworks Park among the new ones. Things the papers turned up Cowdenbeath's old Crawford's Park was North End Park. The ground at Foulford belonged to Mrs Agnes Crawford of the Crown Hotel across the road, and the club was playing there by 1884. Morton's page now shows both founding years, 1874 as the club gives it and 1876 as the SFA annuals have it. Albion Rovers were at Meadow Park from 1883, with thanks to the club historian Brian Nugent. Saltcoats Victoria's grounds from 1880 to 1936 are now set out, checked against the papers. Kilmarnock Women's old home at Strandhead Park in Stewarton is now the site of the Rose Reilly Sports Centre, named after one of the club's own. Crests and photographs 17 more clubs have given us their crests: Aberdeen City Ladies, Blantyre Victoria, Caledonian Braves, Carron Ladies, Cumnock Juniors, East Fife, East Kilbride, East Stirlingshire, Fraserburgh, Hill of Beath Hawthorn, Johnstone Burgh, Kilsyth Rangers, Lochee United, Lossiemouth, Nairn County, Saltcoats Victoria and Stewarton Annick Ladies. Ashfield sent club photographs from 1904-05 up to this year, and Johnstone Burgh sent theirs. Thanks to both clubs, and to everyone who has written in. As ever, if you spot something wrong on your club's page, the corrections page is there and I fix things in public. https://scottishfootballhistory.scot

Some amount of hyperbole and confirmation bias being applied here. Too many people behaving reactively and judging results rather than performances (I get that results matter and will get managers the sack). But, yesterday was a million miles away from the Aberdeen and Celtic games, where I was genuinely worried that things were unravelling at a rate of knots that might be difficult to stop. Im not saying things are perfect. Im not saying that things cant improve more (they will need to). But I did see enough yesterday to think that there were signs of improvement. I still think we need to be braver on the ball, but yesterday really wasnt the day to be doing that given our previous frailties. If there is unrest in the dressing room, I didnt see many signs of it yesterday. The players all worked hard for each other and put a shift in, even Maswanhise, who has been absolutely toothless going forward worked back to cover Sparrow. Yesterday was absolutely down to individual mistakes. Neither Longelo nor McGhee make any attempt to stop Braga getting a free header for the first, and SOD gives the ball straight to Miller for the second. Neither of those things happen and Hearts dont score. Alfred cant do anything about those incidents. Similarly with Thors chances second half. Considering we were without Fadinger & Lowry yesterday and Koutroumbis and Priestman have disappeared again, I thought yesterdays performance (outwith the errors) was decent enough so I will give the manager some credit there. He now needs to show that level of performance can be applied consistently and the errors eliminated so that the results will follow. If he does that, he will survive this. If he cant, then he will be gone before Xmas.

The travelling fans, however small in number, need to be vocal in reminding him that he is a snivelling shitebag.

I dont see us losing this one

See the above post for someone looking at things objectively , not sugar coated and then theres yours...but you've got it off yoyr chest, every workplace has characters like yourself, gets awfy tedious, listening to negativity....keep yer pecker up lad.

I was pretty encouraged by our performance yesterday. We seemed much better organised at the back, kept the ball better, pressed better, created better chances and the work rate certainly didnt look like the performance of a team that had downed tools on the manager. Was it perfect? No, far from it. But Ive been looking for small improvements, and yesterday, I thought there were many. On the balance of play, I thought we deserved something from the game. We created better & more chances than Hearts and had we taken some of them, I dont think they could have complained too much if we had won the game. Problem is we didnt. Eythor misses 2 guilt edged chances. I get he is rusty, but to not even make clean contact with the ball on 2 occasions is pretty poor. Not sure what the reasoning was for changing Seb out. He didnt look out of running to me and looks far more likely in front of goal. He was unlucky in the first half with his volley. Similarly, the much maligned Sparrow had a very good game against McPake, who was supposed to pull his pants down, but didnt. He looked like he was still full of running and I wouldnt have subbed him out either. SOD then makes the mistake for the 3rd game in a row, making that substitution also look silly. You could argue those 2 changes were on the manager and cost us any chance of getting back in the game, but looking at the bench its hard to see what else he could have done at that point to freshen things up. He did bring on Kanga, and that partnership with Manny looked very promising. Id like to see more of that. Overall, really dispiriting to goes 6 losses on the bounce. We are definitely in trouble re our league position, but it looks far from terminal at this point. We do desperately need to get a result from somewhere though, before we end up bottom and detached from the rest. Teams rarely recover from those situations.

There were definitely signs of improvement performance wise today and with a bit more composure I think we would have taken something from the game. Two good finishes from Hearts but nobody tracks Braga and a poor clearance from O'Donnell, albeit I think a bit unlucky it lands straight at Miller's feet. In the next week we desperately need a couple of 90 minutes performances with minimum mistakes and conversion of chances or even something to fall for us.

Stats are irrelevant pish, Hearts had not won a game away from Tynecastle since January 26 until today. So its how the team performs on the day that matters, previous or current form or lack of count for nothing. We created a fair few really good chances today and took none of them thats why we lost, repeat the decent play that made those chances and convert them into goals and we may win on Wednesday night. Thst said we are hopeless up top just now so hopefully a solution can be found, so keep the faith people.

Kanga was excellent when he came on - it enabled Longelo, Hodge and Kanga all to cause issues - which we should have scored from. It needs 3 of them the wingback, midfield and attack and with the talent of Kanga and Longelo really promising. This is something that we should leverage in coming game.s On the right we need something similar - it should really be JK, Fadinger and Said.

The Kanga change made a lot of difference to the way we played. Hodge in the middle helped him too, looked much better. Would have preferred to see the Longelo/Kanga combo with Palmer-Houlden in the middle though. And on another note, fucking Irons repeatedly saying 'Palmer-Holding' proper grinds my fuckin' gears.

This is a ridiculous argument. You have obviously made up your mind on the manager and will now try to wedge any reason into an argument as to why he must go O'Donnell is a very experienced former International player getting paid a very reasonable wage to be a professional football player. To bring him on for the last 10 in his natural position to provide stability, freshness, respite to tired players is perfectly reasonable and legitimate. You cannot preempt the mistake that follows. Today's teams were very even, separated by Hearts having players that are currently sharper in front of goal. Motherwell were the better team in the second half. People have already made up their minds in both directions and will find the rhetoric to fit their preferred outcome. My view is that it is far too early to sack this manager.

However if you used his full surname.....🤣🤣