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I have one or two things about Flow post, the first is the bit about the club not responding to every story...sorry but when the integrity of the club and those who run it are being questioned then they bloody well should be slapping down those suggestions asap. I think that comment is quite condescending but that's my own personal opinion. Just to say thanks for posting, however again I feel that if the SPL have as you post, went ahead and issued this document without the rest of the SPL permission or knowledge then it is the club's DUTY to distance itself from the widespread condemnation of the document as most people know we have Motherwell Directors on the SPL board. We need to retain integrity and honesty. As we know shite sticks so we need those running the club to make forthright statements regarding these documents and 'bits of speculation' that are not just posted by rags or rumour but are covered in mainstream tabloids and National TV programs and debated throughout the country. This is not rumour and bits of speculation this is the future of our game and this document showed none of that. With no one from the SPL/SFL or SFA commenting on the document and its contents and how it affects our club then we have to turn to the people who run our club. we need leadership and continual dialogue from our directors not silence. Happy to hear we had nothing to do with that document and we can all breathe more easily. I am, as is my right, am holding off with any cash until this whole fiasco plays out. Not a threat but protecting my rights to watch my team play in a league where they have a chance of winning something because all the rules are being obeyed by all clubs. If there is a stitch up then I can walk away and invest my hard earned elsewhere.

It's not threats its a choice each person makes. Maybe Flow should have chosen his words a little bit more wisely especially as he is the official spokesman for the club. He could have said people have 'chosen' not to renew rather than a provocative word like threats. No doubt he will be kicking himself a wee bit when he realises the context it could be taken especially at such a sensitive time with the club's director's position of being SPL panel members and 'the' document. (and its not a bloody criticism before the happy clappers go nuts on this site its an observation)

Even if everything went the way you want where is the sporting integrity of allowing a club to cheat and defraud everyone and then reward them for it.What is to stop them and other clubs doing it again and again. What point is having cash if the Old Firm can never be relegated. Where is the competitiveness, how is that in any shape or form a football league. Motherwell will survive short term because we have a very small squad, we have Champions League Football and we have the Well Society for just such eventualities. Division 1-3 have survived without SKY cash and Old Firm visits for decades without folding. Without sporting integrity there is no football, there is no league and there is no cash because the fans will turn away in droves and the club will die. Now go tell your pals on Rangers Media and Follow Follow that is why we want sporting integrity over SKY cash.

Who cares..!! We dealt with it as the rules of the game at the time, which were none. New rules were brought in later and they have been used on clubs who went into administration so take your holier than though shite elsewhere. We didn't break the rules because there were none to break. We done what we had to do to survive.

Has anyone read this http://wingsland.podgamer.com/the-lead-parachute/ very good look at the proposals basically tearing it apart.

Och..stop being a drama queen...

Due to work commitments its been very hard for me too get to many games, hence why I have been a PATG customer for a good few years. However in taking stock of everything that's going on I wondered why I bothered posting up emotional posts (again sorry Flow, heat of the moment) about Motherwell. When I go to watch Motherwell I love the fact our stadium is not finished, the fact we have yellow paint all over the place. How our stands are all different sizes. It makes it unique and gives the place character. I love the fact the Big Higdon comes in and is not the complete striker, has many faults but still comes out as top scorer. How our players want to come back and finish their careers where they started. How Humphrey can run like the wind but my 7 year old son can cross the ball better. How Lasley is probably the smallest midfielder in the league but is happy to stick the boot in when required. I love the fact that a wee Estonian no one rates comes here and plays for his travel expenses makes an impact and gets a shitload of goals and becomes a fan favourite. How Murphy can beat 8 players and score wonder goals but then is never seen for another 5 matches. I love how we have glorious games when we were expected to fail and abysmal failures when expectations are high of a win. I loved Skippy Sunday, I love 2-0 game against Celtic or the unforgettable 6-6 game against Hibs. I was shocked when Uncle Phil died but was comforted by the togetherness of the fans and their support of the family and each other. Of the naming of the Stands Davie Cooper and Phil O'Donnell. The 1991 Scottish Cup run How the 'well worth saving' campaign rallied us in our darkest hour and then go on to play in the Champions League 10 years later. How we have one of the smallest squads in the league but had great success on the field. I wish we had more money as a club but am happy to live within a strict wage structure for the future of our club I hope we can keep this oddball bunch of players and our old and eccentric stadium going, I hope we are the driving force for change in the game but not for the benefit of one club. I hope that the directors have the fans and the club's future uppermost in their minds at every meeting they attend and fight our corner against the dominance of the Old Firm and our rights as a member club. That's why I love being a Motherwell fan.

Right am away oot to calm down again....Hope to god Motherwell statement puts this right and I am completely wrong..

They knew about this all day yesterday and were at the meeting, bollocks to giving them time they knew what they were doing all along. I can't wait to read this statement and see how they can justify this...oh right...we need money or we go into administration, well we have been there and done that, didn't seem to affect Dundee much doing it twice and the SFA/SPL will bend over backwards to accommodate a member SPL team after all. BTW there is not a raging as fuck smillie. I like these though

Exactly this, the SPL equivalent of 30 pieces of silver. I have seen Flow on these and other boards as fast as lightning on other matters and his silence says a lot. He is the MFC Communication officer so where is our communication from the board on this ridiculous document.??

Does our chairman being part of the SPL Board count as this came from them and must have been approved by the SPL board prior to being published.

sorted for you mate...dunno who would disagree with that

I see the club have a heading on their site 'Season Tickets - Why should you buy..??' my thoughts exactly, not much point really.

From P&B allegedly the word on the wire that MJ in a meeting with the Kilmarnock supporters let slip that Celtic have been throwing their weight around re the 11-1 voting rights at recent SPL meetings. Possibility of long legal action against clubs and making things difficult for clubs who attempt to change the vote, seems SPL clubs are backing down on this as well.

To think one of 'ours' sits on the panel and allowed this utterly ridiculous document to be approved in our clubs name needs to resign

How about this SPL board SPL - Rangers and Celtic First Division - Rest of the SPL and six from the First Division Pyramid system thereafter sounds a hundred times better than that pish document you put out...I need to go lie down...

Sporting integrity is VERY simple. Pay your taxes, pay other clubs for buying their players, pay the players the wages that have been agreed to the SFA, no dual contracts. If you break the rules you get punished. How fucking hard is that and I don't need a load of shite from Albert fuckface Camus to tell me

To think I was going up to Fir Park to get my season ticket and join the Well society as the wages went into the bank today...!! Forget it, you are not getting a penny of my money if we accept this. I thought we were building for the future it looks like the club wants the Old Firm duopoly to continue and are happy to be mid table mediocrity

MFC Where is your statement on this.? You went to the meeting today. Where does the club stand on this blackmail and bullying document.? It is an insult to our intelligence. A disgrace to be involved in this.

The SPL have just basically threatened the SFL with extinction if they don't agree, bullying of the worst kind and to say it is retaining 'sporting integrity' is absolutely outrageous. My link My other link

I guess the Appelate tribunal will not sit again going by that document. Rangers are being handed the biggest pat on the back for Fraud and cheating I have ever known. The SPL should be disbanded immediately. I understand Motherwell precarious finances but I would rather go part time than accept this in any form. This is so corrupt it is actually embarrassing and gives Rangers fans all the material they need to throw the 'sporting integrity' right back in our faces.

signed

Then pay Faddy's wages for the next 6 months Diggle

You kidding, their Chairman is a bigger Rangers Supporter than Chic Young and Jim Traynor rolled into one. A Definite Yes vote. He couldn't give a damn about 'his'club's fans outcry. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he sold the club to Rangers to give them a hand back into the League if the SFL rejected Sevco.

Stitch up alert. No sign of league reconstruction ever happening until the prospect of a NO vote for SEVCO and all of a sudden we have all 3 associations wanting reconstruction. Complete and utter surrender to strengthen the duopoly even further. Complete and utter sellout.