Great Balls of Shire
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1 hour ago, David said:
I agree, it likely has very little to do with financial savings on the relatively low wages Biereth gets at Arsenal.
It's more likely that the loan management team in London has looked at his numbers and performances up here and figured he's shown that he can perform at this level and that it would be more worthwhile seeing if he can do a job at a higher level for the next six months rather than continue as he is here, which would really tell them nothing.
What this situation should tell us is that we cannot rely on loan signings. They will either come in and do terribly like Shaw or do well like Biereth and end up becoming a loss risk.
Probably another topic on its own but if football could implement a rule where you need a certain amount, e.g 4 home grown players in each team, would stop the man city's etc buying everyone and anyone.
Hopefully this is the start of something down south with clubs being docked points. Feel a bit for Everton , who don't strike me as massive spenders
I've gone completely off topic but there you go
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4 hours ago, The African said:
A pertinent reminder to all that loan players brought in are not our players and, if successful with us, only likely to price themselves out of our budget in the longer term. Unfortunately the disparity in finance between the likes of Arsenal and ourselves means that they hold all the aces and they can use us to develop their young talent with our only benefit being possible short term gain from half a season of appearances. As these bigger clubs continue to hoover up all the best young players, it looks like a situation that is unlikely to change any time soon. Throw in the fact that any talk of financial FairPlay in football is a joke and we need to perhaps look closer at developing our own young players for any longer term progress.
No point getting too upset about it, but just another example of how managing a club like ours is getting progressively harder.
Great point but the usual suspects will blame the board , mgr etc
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2 hours ago, MJC said:
Oh of course, the ‘Faithers of the support’ don’t want to hear any criticism of the team and the club from anyone who didn’t watch us play in the first division in the 1980s. Why not throw in a ‘FHW’ rant about Hearts and their fans for the full house?
I am just measured in my support and criticism, if required...it's not easy playing, managing or supporting Motherwell...seems to be a chore to you tho
Anyway what is FHW?
Regards
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18 minutes ago, Yodo said:
Just pure shite signings have us in this mess and nobody on the board wae baws tae sack the manager who should have been gone months ago
I don't agree and why have you started talking like oor Wullie?
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10 minutes ago, MJC said:
I’ve supported Motherwell FC for well over 30 years and I have no intention of stopping now, even if I do believe we are in dire straits. So I won’t be going anywhere to support anyone else.
Only the 30? You've not seen bad teams
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3 minutes ago, MJC said:
Sadly that’s all we’ve got to cling to, that other teams can be slightly more shite than us. Like I said, we have nothing to look forward to as a club.
I'm looking forward to seeing who we get in and the game on Saturday... ketts seems a positive guy who doesn't do social media..you should try both
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2 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
There's a lot of pressure on Nick Daws and Stuart Kettlewell right now. The club has been caught with its pants down over Biereth. We have a fortnight to bring in about 5 bodies who are not just half decent but can hit the ground running. Its a tall order. So far the quality of names being linked with us aren't inspiring (possibly Monty excepted), as Melvin has said.
SK mentioned in his presser that all year long loans have recall clauses. That being the case hopefully they're not one sided i.e. Oli Shaw.
Don't know if we can say club has been caught out here. If Arsenal can recall him, then that's their right. The club found him and I am sure they're actively on it for replacements, definitely had a lot of bad luck with injuries, bad luck doesn't last forever.
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45 minutes ago, MJC said:
I don’t want us to sign Halliday because he is a Rangers fan and ex Rangers player. We’ve already got a strip with a sash on it so can you imagine what the Celtic fans will say if we sign Staunch Andy?
On that basis , we wouldn't have signed Pele because of the Santos strip ,
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4 hours ago, MJC said:
Never mind me, this isn’t about me. Do you have any views on Slattery’s injury? How well fare without him? Where this leaves us?
But if you consistently predict defeats , relegation, administration, it is going to be about you....you are either very shrewd or just talk bollocks, I've got my own view
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19 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:
So when you look at a player and think he's pish, you accept the guys ok cos the manager thinks so. Football is littered with ex managers who thought they knew what a good player looks like.
If I accept you view I'll need to reassess my view of Bob Malcolm , John Henry, Joe McLeod , John Davies, Derek Townsley etc ... They must all have been good cos the manager and coaches picked them and played them and they all knew best cos they'd spent a lifetime in the game.. I don't need to be a window cleaner to know a windows clean and I don't need to be a football manager to know a players pish.
But would you know how to use a chamois correctly to avoid getting windows all streaky?
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7 hours ago, MJC said:
Can I provide any evidence of the club being run in an amateurish fashion? Yes, I most certainly can. The video that we’re talking about on our official media platforms begging Taylor Swift for money for starters. You want evidence of our professional top flight football club being run in an amateur fashion then there’s Exhibit A right there.
Then there’s the failure to appoint a replacement for Burrows who left eleven months ago.
Our transfer and scouting system is diabolical and yet our club who are forever pleading poverty have people in post who are happy to squander whatever meagre resources we have on the dross we signed last summer.
That enough for now or would you like me to go on?
You don't half haver man, that's not evidence , just your opinion and we have seen your score/ result predictions, so you don't have a great track record but you don't get embarrassed easily, I'll give you that
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7 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said:
I don’t think Watt has ever went back to any of the clubs he has played for.
Has he?
Only a matter of time, he's played for most of them
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Just now, wellsince75 said:
All I said is I don't think he's a natural goal scorer - there's a huge difference between how he vs Mika reads the game and get's onto the final ball. I'm not poo pooing the guy.
He's a physical, hard working lad, scored a cracker of a goal the other week and every game he works his socks off. Genuinely didn't mean to come across as churlish, he's added value in recent games and been better than others on our books.Honestly Wasn't having a pop at yourself bud, more of a general comment, there was a lot of comment around the guy before he had kicked a ball,
If olly Shaw can earn a living as a pro footballer, bair is much more effective imo
Similar theme but different, just watched the guy Oakley ( Morton) and his hat trick v Dundee utd, he looks useful...again it could be a one off or a three off if you like
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1 hour ago, wellsince75 said:
think most 23 year old strikers have double figures in terms of total career goals scored.
No-one is doubting Bairs effort and he's clearly in a purple patch. I know this isn't popular to say at the moment but he's not a natural goal scorer, positioning, awareness etc just aren't there. BUT he's a hard worker , gives it all and going through a good patch so fair credit to the lad.
I think where to be when ball comes in box etc can be taught, the guy has pace and strength, not things that can be taught, tbh, that was obvious from the off...think it's a bit churlish now to not acknowledge he has something about him especially after the pelters he took before kicking a ball
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Greg Stewart, just another rumour tbf
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4 hours ago, wellfan said:
Two points:
The current trajectory of 1 win in 16 games does not suggest to me that we will finish in a Euro qualification spot. That's my opinion but it's based on the evidence before me.
If you actually read and understood what I wrote in my post you would see that I acknowledged (based on what Weir said) that we cannot afford to empty another management team mid-contract. This means they'll be here until the end of the season regardless of performance. However, if we remain crap, the Club doesn't have to, nor should it renew their contracts when they expire at the end of the season.
Sure, point taken, depends on how you define " current trajectory" tho...anyways onwards and upwards
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16 hours ago, wellfan said:
That is an excellent update by Derek Weir, and hats off to him for doing it. However, his high praise for the current management team suggests he could be chomping at the bit to extend their contracts beyond the end of this season, regardless of their poor performance (so far) this season. I get that we can't empty them now, as he explained why, but they're out of contract at the end of the season and should be on their way if the current trajectory continues, which is looking possible at the moment. To put it simply, given McMahon and Weir are stepping down and/or leaving to allow the Club the opportunities to move forward instead of standing still, awarding a poorly performing management team a new contract, in my opinion, would be the antithesis of what they're trying to achieve for the Club. Therefore, regardless of on-field performance, the timing of the appointment of a new CEO and Weir's departure could be pivotal in determining who the management team will be for next season. I understand that what I am concerned about here is hypothetical, but that's my gut reaction.
If the " current trajectory" continues, we will be in Europe, 4 points from last 6, we can't afford to have another ex manager on the payroll, if you've heard DW interview , he makes that clear.... paying off managers is x number of players we can't afford
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9 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said:
I am just glad that we got an update there has been far too much silence from the club and that just lets the rumours grow and certain suspects of our support sprout more crap about a subject we all don’t know what’s happening. They would be better off at Area 51.
More updates would be good.
Yep more updates would be great, maybe been otherwise occupied tho
The sections of the support you mention probably won't listen to it...easier just to fire off a one liner criticising something or other
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49 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:
Celtic fans already wrecked seats in the South Stand. Can we really afford to replace more with his shooting?
His shooting wasn't too bad v Aberdeen at Hampden
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7 minutes ago, wellfan said:
We should not be looking to sign a player with a worse goal-per-game ratio than the player we just moved on for being shite.
Main (71 in 434) - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/curtis-main/leistungsdatenverein/spieler/77715
Wilkinson (72 in 328) - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/conor-wilkinson/leistungsdatenverein/spieler/228791
Fair dues but having seen both of them play , I'd have Main first all day
You're presuming also Wilko was punted , he may have wanted a move away.
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1 hour ago, mothman said:
Alan Nixon, football writer for critically acclaimed newspaper The Sun... 😅 has linked Motherwell, Dundee and St. Mirren with interest in bringing Curtis Main back to Scotland. If true, I would be in the "thanks, but no thanks" category, but given the paper he works for, I'm inclined to think this may be another instance of lazy journalism.
Not the worst...
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13 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
Not a dig at you GBoS but what do you mean by a "smaller club"? I often see us referred to as being one, but am curious as to which ones we are being compared to. I'd say in a Scottish context we are in the largest 20/25%. If in a British context then yes, we are but so are the likes of Aberdeen and Dundee United. In a European context yes, we most certainly are.
No worries, suppose I meant relative to old firm , even their managers have a shelf life....I was a Robbo fan, ultimately it was his choice to leave .
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16 hours ago, AllyMax said:
Yan Dhanda leaving Ross Co.......
He's been advised fitbas better in Morecambe.
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18 minutes ago, Throughthelaces said:
I think we won’t see anyone achieve what Robbo did I said at the time we let him walk we were making a mistake. But we are where we are and I’ll hope kettlewell comes good for us and has us doing as best we can
We had already talked him out if walking a few weeks beforehand and then a few weeks later he chose to go
We have a shelf life as a club as do most smaller clubs
Robbo and McInnes etc will probably be under pressure next year, if not before,it's just the way it goes
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Fair dues but if there was a simple solution, like grow your own, the club would have and are trying it ...but it's obviously not as simple as it sounds .For every Lennon Miller etc, there'll be god knows how many who don't make it or go elsewhere.