Great Balls of Shire
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1 hour ago, wellfan said:
Do you seriously think that all the people on here who wish to see Kettlewell replaced are trolls? If so, that is an entirely unreasonable statement. I want him replaced because his record is crap this season, which isn't an unreasonable assessment, nor is it troll behaviour to espouse that view. Furthermore, most of those critical of Kettlewell also comment on most other topics, whether we win, lose or draw. To be openly critical of something/someone is not always equivalent to being a troll.
Your posts are generally well-measured and enjoyable to read, but if I've read correctly, this is a pile of dismissive nonsense. You can't blanket refer to all people of the anti-Kettlewell view as trolls with unserious views. That is such a cheap and simplistic assumption to make.
I've read David's post and he doesn't mention anywhere about people wanting SK out as trolls , unless you are trolling him?
I personally don't want him out because I can see the obstacles in his way at moment, the other issue with continually punting managers is it costs a lot of money and I reckon he will keep us up ...these decisions are seldom black and white...that doesn't mean I wasn't hacked off on Friday.
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16 hours ago, dennyc said:
Well said.
May I add to your list those that go into hiding when the team put in a good performance or certain players perform well. Or alternatively go into denial when one of the chosen few performs badly. The days after the County game being a standout example.
Yes, of course they are entitled to their opinion. But those opinions might actually carry a bit more credence if they were more balanced, less obsessive and more constructive.
I sometimes wonder if they actually sit there desperate for us to get a hiding so they can say "Told you so. He is shite"
Every player has good and bad days. Every Manager has good and bad days. But you would think that was not the case if you listened to a few on here.
Thankfully they are in the minority. Noisy but fairly few in number.
You only had to note who didn't post Tuesday night....just to add I am usually a " happy clapper" but am hacked off going out of cup ...it's on the players for me, not the manager...1st goal is amateur hour... sorry Liam Kelly , you need to sit the next few out , too many errors and too few " big" moments.
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2 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:
I've had 46 years of moving on , it's water off a ducks back within a day. I'm as close to chucking as I've ever been. I am seriously bored watching this year on year whinge about being skint , year on year fuck ups in Cups, year on year having to rebuild from loan deals every 6 months. I seriously question what would I miss.
It's OK when you are young there is an air of excitement about it all but as you get older and see the same script year on year the attraction diminishes, well thats how I feel, maybe some other who started watching us in the 1970s still get the excitement.
2 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:I've had 46 years of moving on , it's water off a ducks back within a day. I'm as close to chucking as I've ever been. I am seriously bored watching this year on year whinge about being skint , year on year fuck ups in Cups, year on year having to rebuild from loan deals every 6 months. I seriously question what would I miss.
It's OK when you are young there is an air of excitement about it all but as you get older and see the same script year on year the attraction diminishes, well thats how I feel, maybe some other who started watching us in the 1970s still get the excitement.
Great post and I get what you are saying.
I think we are more or less where we were when I started watching in mid 70s,
i . e mid table top league.... obviously there's a lot happened in between , cup win, relegation, play off win. That's just off top of my head...I did waver for a few years , circa 2004.
I still get a buzz here and there but if you analyse why you go too much , you probably would jack it in, the authorities don't sell it well, playing in dead of winter etc...it's better than shopping is about the best I can give you....keep the faith bud, we need you
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2 hours ago, dmsd said:
It’s not Kelly’s fault are you blind Kelly hasn’t came off his line in 2 years for a high ball he is useless and that summed him up last night useless needs dropped and hope we don’t sign him for next season
Did you read my post before commenting?
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7 minutes ago, Wellsince1976 said:
Firstly, I am not a fan of disposing of managers at the drop of a hat, and I still stick by the manager. HOWEVER, like a few others on here, I was totally dismayed at A/ The team he put out last night(should have been freshened up in my opinion after the 2 previous games in quick succesion) B/ The lack of tactics C/ Some of the subs and "tactics" thereafter were baffling.
You can`t get everything right, all of the time, but SK is not helping himself a lot of the time. He has to get the selection and tactics right against Aberdeen. Unfortunately, for me, this means dropping Kelly. He has been average(with the odd great save) for ages now, and Kettlewell must show his managerial teeth by dropping him. I don`t know how good Oxborough is, but there is only one way to find out!
It's not Kelly's fault he is on the relatively high wage he is on but we need an exceptional player by our standards for that money
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54 minutes ago, robsterwood said:
We could do worse than getting Oakley as an extra striker
Mentioned that a few weeks ago
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8 hours ago, steelman1991 said:
O'Donnell must have incriminating pictures of Kettlewell - man's a fuckin imposter get him to fuck. Just back and raging - again. 60 years and defeats like this still hurt.
Think you could see the difference when Devine came on
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25 minutes ago, Wellsince1976 said:
I agree. He needs to be dropped. Bit I don`t think the manager will, as that would definately end any faint hopes he has of a Euro place.
First goal is a combination of errors but in general LK doesn't produce enough big saves, I'm sure there's a keeper who could do the same, probably better, for half the money
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10 hours ago, Mootherwell86 said:
Bad day for football forum scouts…
Yep, this time last week they were all having a breakdown because we hadn't signed a striker, a thread about nick daws blah blah
Few tricky games coming up so every chance they will appear again 😔
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3 hours ago, wellfan said:
If you choose to use good performances and draws as indicators of success, that's fine, but it doesn't achieve much in a points-based league where playing good stuff is not applicable. Good stuff ≠ three points.
I measure success against victories achieved (or lack thereof) in the context of points gained from draws across a sustained period of significance. The current and relevant form period that I use stands at nineteen games and one victory, and I'm afraid to say that the good stuff played amongst the unbeaten games you refer to hasn't (or won't) earned us 18 points.
That's how I choose to look at things, and that's also fine.
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On 2/4/2024 at 12:04 AM, wellfan said:
1 league win in 19. Let's see if he can make it 1 in 20 on Tuesday.
Or if we can be unbeaten in 6 and playing good stuff?
Depends how you CHOOSE to look at things.
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51 minutes ago, wellgirl said:
Its not the fact you are posting guesswork or not - you are suggesting that Hammell wasn't well treated but you can't say exactly what because it's for him to say - that's completely fine but it explains nothing to anyone on here.
I personally didn't think Hammell was the right person for the job from the outset. I thought he was too inexperienced at that level.
It was very clear that something was wrong as time went on - you could see how stressed he was in post match interviews.
And yes - we are struggling just now but as someone said above - we are five matches unbeaten. From my point of view when Hammell left we didn't look as if that bad spell was going to turn around.
I think we'd have been relegated without Kettlewell last season. It's a result driven business as everyone knows - sure Kettlewell knows that too. And if we hit a slump again I'm sure Kettlewell knows his job will be at risk.
I am not unhappy with Ketts, but the fact remains that Hammy never got the chance to work with the guys he brought in , e g Butcher, Obika ..can't recall the others but they did make a difference ..plus kvv decided to start playing, I mind him missing an easy chance in the Raith cup tie...that's the kind of sliding doors moment.Anywsy it's all been and gone now and hopefully he gets a chance at management again somewhere
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18 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:
I don't know why that would alter folk booing him today. He was out to damage us today, so he was fair game. Tom Boyd captained us in the Cup win but I'd boo that bastard every minute of every day .. I'd boo the cunt if I saw him going to the ice cream van 😁😁
Why??
ice cream salesman need to earn a living too!!
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52 minutes ago, Yoshi-1991 said:
Let me guess, sick of saying we deserved to win and didn't. Positive signs etc etc
Haven't heard interview but if he does say that, he'd be right
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3 minutes ago, AllyMax said:
There's only one idiot on this thread (not true actually, there's at least three).
You'd put a bunch of guys who arrived some time over the llast three days into the starting line up ?
Yep, it's the same ones who post negative stuff before the game ..do they actually enjoy fitba? Or anything?
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7 minutes ago, steelboy said:
The pay offs pay for themselves by ensuring we don't get relegated.
We've got millions in the bank so the club aren't short of liquidity.
And if kettleWell keeps us up , which I think he will, we wouldn't need to spend, that's the gamble... depends what side of the line you fall on
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2 hours ago, wunderwell said:
Well this is my last post on this site.
Off to P and B to chat to people with similar thoughts.
Would the miserable bastards on this site do us a favour and not follow suit.
You can stay here and hate the world.
I know plenty of people in the world like the people above and never stood about long enough to listen to their bile.
See you in the Spl next season.
I’ll spot you because your pants will be wringing and Kettlewell will have taken a shite on your doorstep.
Catch the good guys later. Keep up the faith.I do get what you're saying.
I know you need a range if opinions but some of the stuff on here??
One poster is calling our players c*nts and the manager a tit...I know it's not the Sunday School but would you like someone talking to your family like that?
Maybe don't answer that
We are meant to be on the same side
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3 hours ago, steelboy said:
Also if we don't offer him a new contract can we trust him in a relegation battle when he has no skin in the game?
He should have been sacked in December but too many people live in fantasyland.
I don't agree and even if I did, how do we keep funding all the pay offs?
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1 minute ago, wellfan said:
If anything, the relegation dogfight will be fun. I'm genuinely looking forward to the next few games.
Yep, if you're not competing at top , a relegation dogfight is interesting....as long as.... Well y 'know
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45 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:
Livingston looked absolutely gubbed, the club is a shambles behind the scenes. Hard to see them finishing anywhere outside of bottom place.
Dundee and Kilmarnock will be fine. St. Mirren will probably be fine, their recent form isn't great so they might get dragged into things but I think they have enough points on the board.
That leaves us, St Johnstone and Ross County fighting to stay out the play off spot.
Honestly all three are much of a muchness. Under Levein St Johnstone have shored up at the back but they still struggle to score. On the other hand we've scored goals but are absolutely shocking at the back. And Ross County are probably somewhere in the middle, not great at either but not desperate. They also have basically a new team and it remains to be seen how that turns out.
No one is really posting great form out all these teams, so it's hard to really pick one out that's looking like they might improve.
Personally I think the 2nd bottom spot might go to St Johnstone as you just can't win games without scoring.
Probably going to be a bit of a nail bitter though.
I thought we looked a good bit better than st j, admittedly only drew ..so there's not much in it
In saying that in the 2 games v st mirren, I thought we have been as good as them, but we do lose easy goals so it all goes for nothing
Let's see what the new signings add , I think we will be ok , but it's the defence that needs sorting
I just caught the st j goal from last weekend, another goal where we never attacked the cross and it trundles in.
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4 minutes ago, gaz7 said:
I get that a forum is for all opinions and we can't all be positive but by God the last 24 hours have been negativity central. Some people really do have sad lives who just moan at anything. See the arseholes at your work that non stop say they hate their job moan at everything are generally also shite at their job. The same applies here in their football knowledge and so called support of their team. That guy/gal yesterday who said he hadn't been in 10 years but on moaning. Holy fuk that summed those sort of people up .
That's the problem with a forum, it's mostly speculation, 3 or 4 in here just post shit for the hell of it and don't feel the need to back it up...it's invariably negative unfortunately
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11 hours ago, purestate said:
Lots claiming to have followed the team/ football for years but still don't seem to have a f__king clue how squads and transfer windows work.
Let me spelL it out to the angry idiots clambering for more and more forwards.
We’ve scored 3 fewer goals than the team in 3rd but conceded 15 more.
maybe the management team have concluded we can use the 6 forward players in first and development squad plus attacking midfield to get the goals but maybe, just maybe, the defence needs some better options.
Yes it would be great to get an established striker who has been banging them in consistently at Scot Prem level and wants to try a new experience playing in front of a bunch of roasters (not you ppower obviously as you’ve already fkd off) but there probably aren’t many about.
it’s all very well having an opinion but there are so many totally deluded on this forum 🫨
Totally, they are all posting about the mgr being in over his head etc and they hee haw about his intentions re playing squad...tbf the club will hopefully communicate this asap
I am a clown for reading most of the posts on here
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35 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
Very vague statement by the club. Celtic will be treating him, yes, but has his loan been cancelled? If he's out for 2 months say he'll return sometime in April; if out for 3 months it'll be May. When he returns he'll be far from match fit.
Some clarity would be appreciated.
He's out for the foreseeable and unlikely to feature again , unfortunately. How much more do you need to know?
It's the last day of the transfer window, other things going on
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18 minutes ago, steelboy said:
I've known he's coming for a couple of weeks and had a look at what's been said about him.
So you're checking out potential signings now so you can pan them before they play, your dedication is commendable
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🏆SC Greenock Morton v Motherwell 09/02/2024
in Club Chat
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Pack the stadium out, make money, all part of the plan