MJC

Another defeat. Probably 2-0 again.

The 0-4 gubbing at home against Aberdeen has knocked the stuffing and the confidence right out of us and Alfred looks completely clueless as to how to rectify it. He’s not helped himself with his team selections particularly yesterday. Also, I reckon if we hadn’t postponed that Aberdeen game in favour of this particular game and played it on the Sunday of the weekend it was scheduled for we would probably have beaten them then, or at the very least not got gubbed 4-0.

Ahh “don’t feed the troll” In other words “you and I can’t argue with anything that has been put forward by that particular poster so let’s just slink away and try to dismiss it as trolling” It’s a bit like “pant wetter” and “you’re behaving like Old Firm fans”. I’m just here to discuss the club and the team. Point of the forum surely?

And what do we have right now? Because I don’t see anything that you mention in the above quote from us in this current team.

If the strategy is going to get us relegated, yes.

Not atall. Brown was seen at the time as a safe pair of hands but completely unexciting type of appointment after Jim Gannon. Yet he steadied us and turned us from a shambles under Gannon into a formidable side which managed to qualify for Europe. I’m not saying that Clarke would do the same if he was to be offered the job (and it’s all hypothetical of course because we have a manager and he isn’t even being considered as far as I know) but I tend to think he would make us a lot more effective and formidable as a team than Alfred Johansson.

Quite a few of our fans were against Craig Brown getting our job in 2009 based on what he did with Scotland. But he turned out alright in the end. Sometimes pragmatic beats excitement/experiment.

Steve Clarke anyone? I don’t know if he would even be interested but I wouldn’t mind us asking the question should the situation arise. Forget what he did/didn’t do with Scotland, he would make us hard to beat and competitive.

Anyone who claims that they ‘see’ it that way is either utterly clueless about football or else is using self assuring bravado to try and convince themselves that it wasn’t as bad as it was because we only lost by two goals when it should have been at least six.

If that £11M striker Høgh wasn't such a diddy with the first touch of an elephant we would have lost that by a much higher scoreline. They cut us open at will especially down the left and he got in numerous great positions only to completely mis control the ball.

Which he did, he brought Turnbull and Scott into the team and arguably launched Turnbull’s career. Remind me, who did Alexander bring through? Or at least who did he give a chance to given that he didn’t have the luxury of a Turnbull in the youth system. And what football did he try and play?? We’re getting sidetracked by this trip down memory lane and revisionism, however my core point is that this current team and manager look absolutely hopelessly out of their depth and as a result are attracting legitimate and deserved criticism from supporters. That is all fair enough and it is certainly not ‘toxic’ behaviour as your earlier post claimed.

That’s what you said about the last time we managed to reach the Scottish Cup Final under Robinson, who you were very vocal in being negative about and heaping pressure on as I remember. But now you’re getting up on your high horse again about supporters voicing legitimate concerns about the current team, manager and the performances which have brought about four losses in a row with very little to be positive about?? Just like your passionate defence of Graham Alexander and the shite he was serving up and your jumping on Stuart Kettlewell’s bandwagon after he opened his arse and spewed nonsense about the support? Contrary much?

Toxic? Can you define that and how it relates to our support please?

I reckon he’ll walk sooner or later.

He’s just not a leader. He doesn’t have the presence or charisma that Jens had and it shows in the performances. When he’s trying to hold court and you’ve got players turning their back and not even listening to him then that is a serious sign that all is not well.

Absolutely dismal stuff. That isn’t a team it’s a bunch of individuals who don’t know what they’re expected to do led by a manager who is badly out of his depth.

New Celtic manager apart I was spot on unfortunately.

We’ve tried to appoint a JBA Mk2 but instead we’ve got Stevie Hammell Mk2. I just don’t see it with this guy sadly.

Said immediately showing more than Vogt in just a few minutes. Too late though.

This is Stevie Hammell level stuff. The parallels are there, nice enough guy inheriting an impossible task but clearly just not up to the job.

O’Donnell jeezo

The clock is ticking.

Chasing shadows and only some good goalkeeping and luck has prevented us being three or four goals down. The space Tounekti and Tierney are getting down the left flank is frightening and it’s going to pay off for them sooner or later. Lowry has showed some nice touches but apart from that this team is yet again showing nothing remotely effective just as we showed nothing remotely effective against Rangers or Aberdeen. AJ said pre match that we need to do more from middle to front and need to “play forward” but if we’ve got Vogt up front then we have no chance of producing anything with that.

This team will lose to Kilmarnock next week as well, so anyone trying to take comfort in that fact that it’s Celtic we’re playing today and they’re better than us is in for a rude awakening when we head to Ayrshire next Saturday.

They’re getting far too much freedom in our right back area.