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And that's why I think the celtic game counts. It's not a write-off.

Fair enough. If he gets back to basics and stops putting square pegs in round holes, and we still don’t get points but at least show up, I won’t be livid. That’s what I mean about mettle. I do still think the clock is ticking, however.

I disagree. It’s a chance for him to show that he has some mettle.

And we have to trust that Kettlewell will begin to start players in their correct positions, but I don't, unfortunately. It feels like he's dug himself into a corner and is unwilling to admit he was wrong on a few things as he believes the 'togetherness' will see them through. Let's hope someone has a word with him this international break, or it'll be his last as Motherwell manager.

The same could be said about an enforced silence. And i don't think this Motherwell FC forum is the place for these discussions.

2 Unlimited.

And Larsson to score two hat-tricks.

How dare you accuse the Board of such levels of competence.

Maybe smaller in stature and history, but Roy MacGregor is minted, and we are far from that. https://www.heraldscotland.com/business_hq/23322089.ross-county-chairman-sells-energy-firm-us-private-equity-player/

And due to the nature of his signings and the players released/sold/loaned out, Kettlewell was only ever going to be able to set up one way. This is why we are where we are now. It's an extremely limited squad that can play in a particular way, albeit very well a while ago, but things have now gone to shit and they can't adapt. Kettlewell is also clearly limited by both his inexperience and due to the budget he was previously allowed. It's a recipe for disaster, but I'm sure he knew that back then and is now living it, and I don't see how he or the players can arrest this slump.

Of course he gets credit, but so would any manager if they had that player at their disposal at that specific point. KVV was the ace up the sleeve that any manager would kill for. Now, without KVV, Kettlewell has nothing. He signed complete shite and has signed his own death warrant by doing so.

Incorrect. I didn’t blame anyone. I made a point about KVV scoring a lot of goals, which saved our season.

Sorry, but how many goals did Kettlewell score again?

As I've said previously, it’s now obvious that it was primarily KVV who saved us last season.

I repeat.

Much like fireworks, pyro is generally inconsiderate and can be dangerous. It's pissing one's money up the wall for the sake of vanity and ego. However, if it can be used legally AND safely in a football stadium context, I’d struggle to find a reasonable argument against it.

That's him back in the national squad again for the German and Norway games. With Gunn out, I wonder if he and Clark will get a game each, with McCrorie as the 3rd choice.

Dead man walking.

McGinn - broken face Spencer & Butcher - broken nose Wilkinson - shite

Sensible post. Yes, Kelly may not be perfect, but I'm delighted we've got him over what we would likely have had we not decided to splash out on a relatively good keeper.

Which he squandered on Obika, Wilkinson, Bair, and Shaw. We've also saved money on attackers' wages by punting Sheilds and putting Mahon, Tierney, and Ferrie out on loan. You could also add McKinstry's wage to that list. I get the need to cut the wage bill and not directly replace players, which has been done. But, Biereth aside, Kettlewell has absolutely pissed the KVV+ wage up the wall.

I find it interesting that Kettlewell sent Frail out to do his pre-match presser. Maybe there's nothing in it, as number two's do this sporadically. However, it was noticeable that Frail kept talking about the 50% win rate, which is excellent to be fair, but it's the feast or famine that's irking the fans. You could win every game one season and lose every game the following season. The former will not prevent the latter from leading to a manager being emptied. The here and now is the most important, and it's not good enough. As I said previously, I'm not calling for his head, but I think he'll be a dead man walking should we lose tonight.

I'm not sure about Levein. He's been out of the managerial game for over four years, so it's risky for St Johnstone to expect someone like that to come in and save them and take them forward. He may well do it, but he's still an unforgivable 4-6-0 prick.

That cheered me up, thanks!

In a weird case of what feels a bit like Stockholm Syndrome, but that's not quite the correct analogy here, the more games that pass, the more I find myself liking Bair for his effort, but only as long as you consider him as not being a goalscorer but as a foil or battering ram or whatever you want to see him as. It does feel a little like clutching at straws, but it's all we've got when the alternative options of Wilkinson and Shaw are considered. Also, perhaps Obika will come back and link well with Biereth?! I am scraping the barrel for positives here.