steelman1991

The rugger chappies know how to behave. Is it really not that obvious. Unless things have dramatically changed in Scotland - the 'prawn' sanny brigade get no special treatment from the real fans - both have to get their fill of alcohol pre and post game (never during, not even at half-time). The only difference is in the location - at the stadium or at the Pub. Anyone who attended Nancy should have first hand knowledge why it shouldn't be re-introduced - you really should have ssen the state of some of our support (and that was with NON-ALCOHOLIC beverages), topping up the copious amounts already drunk prior to KO. No thanks from me.

Yeah that and the fact that he shouted like his baws hadn't dropped - not even close to a top 4 finish in my book - Stuart Rennie, Keith MacRae and Big Sieb all in front of him, but way out in front - John Ruddy - if only I had won that Euro Millions at the weekend.

Was that taken during the first or second phase of the play

Does the question not relate to names of managers (Scotland and Motherwell) in place at the same time? If so you're right with Bobby Brown and Bobby Howitt, but not even close with the other 2.

Yip - Andy Russell's method, religiously ridicule anyone who even attempts to set foot on the precious turf. His philosophy "Grass grows in inches..........but feet kill it - KEEP OFF THE GRASS", so what do our esteemed groundstaff do, take Andy's philosophy to a whole new level - keep the feet of it..................................instead drive a bloody great tractor over it

Obviously an attention disorder - Frazzle back to your room and take your medication - no more computer time for you.

Shit that's why we didn't get any decisions, I was ranting at Charlie Richmond all night doh

F..k me it WAS Mini-Me running the line.

Just shows how pictures can tell a totally different story - didn't think Crags was that quick, or for that matter the h*n defence that slow - just proves how wrong we all can be. Thanks for clearing both issues up - wonder if either will appear in the nationals tomorrow

Looking at that still - might it have been Crags who was offside - couldn't tell from where I was sitting in the Cooper.

Tough, tough choice - perm any 1 from 11. Like many others though the MOM was undoubtedly Stephen Craigan - what an absolutely superb, controlled and skilful performance from Captain Wonder (and the team) are you watching Mr Gannon. Special shout for Stevo Jennings again a very composed performance, doing the simple things really well.

Discussed at some length at our table at the Burns Supper on Friday night - good night by the way. Several people with connections to the club, commented that the option presented to MFC by the 'experts' was considerably more, in cost, than had been expected and the company were advised to trim back the quote. Although the drainage and USH were to the initial recommended spec - the substructure and re-seed of the park was the area that was 'trimmed' - at that time the club were informed that given the reduced specification to the substructure that it was inevitable that the pitch would be seriously damaged over the course of the winter and would require a complete overhaul. Although not straight from the horse's mouth,those in attendance have connections within the club and while I will not divulge the source, I certainly have no reason to doubt their validity. Might just explain the reason why the pitch is in such a state now. Also as an aside - funny how our groundsman friend hasn't posted in a while? Given his enthusiasm to post during the construction period, I would have thought this was an ideal opportunity to share his knowledge with us. Onthefringes - care to comment? You seem to have a better grasp than most on here of the industry and what was required/carried out close season.

Think you're thinking about Eric Garcin

Always remember big Cleishy Mac's interview on the signing of Shivute - "The Motherwell fans will never have seen anything like Shivute" - Boy was he right

No!

To quote McGhee - "no better than we have at the moment" - no thanks.

Or no rush cause no one else wants him

This is just taking 'Care In The Community' to a whole new and worrying level. The Dons also have their version - see here http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=4...;mid=2123009586

He's just a FHW - the pitch at Grangemouth tonight was not a lot better than ours - doesn't make ours right though.

No issue for me has to be Mark Reynolds, he has something few defenders in the SPL have pace -rescued several threatening situations by sheer awareness and speed. Good display. Special mentions to Keith Lasley (particularly 1st half) and Jamie Murphy (gave his all) and is starting to look like the player we all thought he might be.

Ceske - how accurate is the programme? This was the first game after we won the Cup and you were presented with the 1st Division Trophy (both trophies were paraded that day). I agree that I don't think there was quite that figure in the away end (the Police demanded the game be all-ticket and a fair number - well those of a casual nature were locked outside and spent the afternoon being chased round Falkirk Town Centre by the Police), but was certainly around the 3,000 mark. I seem to recall the crowd being around the 7,000 + mark. Ceske - the book 'Well Again' which is a statistical history of the club, records the attendance as 6,000 - where this info came from I don't know, but I can assure you from my memory, there was definitely more than 5,000.

NO argument from me - would love to see more through the turnstyles, more power to your pen and voice - though perhaps I might be allowed a little cynism, given that I've tried in vain for 40 years to persuade others to join the 'well rollercoaster, pity I won't be around in another 30 years to see whether you succumb to my apathy .

Bad comparison Scottish Cup ties, they do tend to draw a slightly larger attendance, even today. Not that long ago we had an attendance not far short of this for both Morton and QOS (though my mind might well be playing tricks). You are right though people do not attend as regularly as the did perhaps a decade ago. And Juan you are correct in your assumption that the average is falling below even my quoted figure and worringly so. Attracting lost-souls back is futile in my opinion - football is habit-forming, these supporters have lost that habit and desire (in some cases) and I'm afraid the fare they watch on their TV sets is unlikely to entice them back (irrespective of price).

That just backs up my previous argument 'We?' didn't have 10,000 against Falkirk, the ground did hold that attendance, but Falkirk brought somewhere around 3,500 to 4,000 that day. Happened regularly as I stated from the late 60's onwards - it was other teams away supports which inflated the gates at Fir Park not our fans.

This old chestnut again - i don't how old some of you posters are and not that it really matters other than to justify my point, but I don't know where you think all these 'floating' fans have suddenly disappeared to. I have been following Motherwell for the best part of 45 years and with the occasional 'special' matches, our 'home' fan attendances have hovered pretty much around the 4 to 5,000 mark. Where I think our club, probably more than 'city' clubs have lost out is in the travelling support. Those of a younger generation will no doubt look back at attendances in the late 60's early 70's with some envy, however clubs carried much healthier 'away' supports, which obviously artifically inflated the sense that MFC crowds were far better than now - not the case. I remember jealousy watching throughout the 80s at the success generated by Aberdeen and Dundee Utd and at that time wishing a similar degree of success for the 'well - surely with a team challenging we could draw 15,000 every week and the place would be rocking - well the next decade brought the first real modicum of success - cup win and a league challenge over 2 years - even splitting the OF, the result an average overall attendance of around 7,500 - this included 4 home OF fixtures. Teams such as Rangers, Celtic, Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen and Kilmarnock, used to bring huge away supports, they don't anymore, that is why our average is plumetting, what we are seeing now are gates, mainly based on our core support, which is nearly the same now as it has been throughout my years of attending Fir Park. Don't kid yourself that there is this huge 'latent' Motherwell support ready to rise at the first sign of a drop in prices or with success on the park - there isn't. Yes we can draw a crowd for the one-off big games, cup finals and the like, just not on a regular basis.