Stu, please read my post again, including the part quoted from Muzz .............................. I said nothing about it being OK to castigate our own players, and the reference to the quality of a side from decades ago serves to highlight the alarming decline in the beautiful game. Lastly, as a lifelong Motherwell fan why on earth would I refuse to celebrate any achievement ? Beit the SPL, the Isle of Man Tourny, the Lanarkshire Cup, or anything else. No matter the quality on offer, finishing ahead of the opposition is the end game for a professional FC surely.