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It sounds like watt is touch and go for saturday so hopefully whatever the issue is it isn't too serious.

Campbells game is all about energy and fitness,neither of which he had when he struggled at utd and giving he hasn't played for months,it will most likely be the same again at st mirren.

Stuparevic to raith rovers,halliday to Patrick and balmer to ross county from a post over on p&b,we should be looking to move all 3 of them on as well as osong.

That's sule away back to west brom

The manager is absolutely brilliant in everything he does,what an appointment he's turned out to be and it just shows you don't need to be part of the managerial merry go round in scotland and need someone that knows the league etc,you just need a guy that knows what there doing and Jen's has that for sure,it also highlights how duffers like kettlewell are conning a living out the game.

Aye I only caught a wee bit on the radio there on the way home and there raving about how good we were tonight.

One thing for certain if that had happened up the other end,you can be sure between the referee and var a penalty would have been giving.

A number 9 is a must in January but for me a left back should also be a priority,longelo clearly offers something going forward but defensively he hasn't got it,he gets caught out of position far to easy then doesn't have the desire to get back,I would be all for giving him a go further up the park and sign a proper left back.

If someone like mcinnes made the same comment as Jen's after the Hibs game about us targeting Hanley,then he would have been a tactical genius according to mccall,he's nothing more than a hanger on and the sooner the scottish game is rid of folk like him the better.

The old firm fans and there clubs in general have total contempt for the rest of scottish football so anytime they lose a game is a good thing but even more so a cup final,well done st mirren.

He has nobody else to blame this time apart from the fact that he's just a shite football manager

Hopefully we see another performance like the Hibs and livi games,where we were right at it from the first whistle.the forward line is still a bit of conundrum,just has been a brilliant signing and maswanhise has been doing the business but it's about time the rest of them starting contributing more than they have been.

Marcus is ian mccall

If we get good performances from the likes of just and maswanhise then I think we will win this,if we get the first goal then the message has to be not letting up at any stage of the game so we dont end up with another killie or falkirk result at home.

A point beforehand would have been a decent result but even more so considering we weren't really at the races tonight,another clean sheet and keeps our good form going into the next game.

Exactly,and talk about playing out from the back,how good was mcginns pass last night that led to the sending off,he did similar at kilmarnock that got us the penalty.we could get some joy with that type of through ball against hearts as there centre backs aren't the quickest.

Impressive nights work from us

We need to stay switched on and offer them no encouragement at the start of the second half.

Get it up ya kettlewell,that would be karma if he got sacked after that result today.

No fucking about now,let's see this out.

He's done his time in scotland and coming back here on loan no matter which club,won't improve him anymore as a player,a loan move to serie b would be the best option for him of it was possible.

I said the same a couple of weeks back busta,it's every game we're swapping one centre half out for another,I know we're pretty dodgy at the back at the best of times but that can't be helping.

This game was billed as two complete opposite styles but it really boils down to they kept the ball out there own net more than we did.defensively were an absolute shambles to lose 4 goals in a semi final to st mirren isn't acceptable,we're just not aggressive enough at defending our own box or even in the wide areas.i think we got it wrong over the summer by keeping to many failed defenders on from last season and we're paying the price for it.i really like the manager and I'm 100% behind him but he really needs to start sorting the defence out of we want to keep improving,we really do defend like school boys far too often.the only good thing that might come from this game is that some of our current defenders and have now shown the manager that they aren't upto the job and we're already looking for replacements come January.

i get why we came into this season with stama as our number 9 but he ain't the answer.the issues we have in defence are completely our own making,we didn't need to keep both O'donnell and mcginn on,it should have been one or the other or ideally neither and the wages used to try and improve an already shit defence,gordon was a part of that shit defence last season but yet we go into a semi final with him and mcginn,it just won't do,Johnny k is a bit part part player at best,not the solid right back that we're crying out for,longelo has been a good signing but today and the livi game, he was awful but we don't have another to come in and give him a rest for a couple of games.throw in a piss poor keeper and it's a recipe for disaster.its going to be same old same old while the likes of mcginn and gordon are here,if any good comes of today it should show the manager that the defence needs ripped up and starting again.

Totally agree we don't need to abandon anything,what were doing is working to a point but to keep making progress we need some more players in that are comfortable in the system and some that can actually defend,it was always going to take time.theres absolutely no doubt though that were paying the price for having most of the defenders that were here last season,we needed a complete change in that department over the summer and it never happened.