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I think Gannon would get into more bother if he tried to approach Dallas unofficially. The point is referees are or should be accountable for their decisions yet criticise one, managers may end up being fined. I'm with Gannon, if there's a backlash then it just shows how unfair the system has become and well done for putting the statement out through official channels rather than the press.

Why exactly?

People are allowed their opinion, the same way you are allowed yours. In the scheme of things giving 30 season tickets away for nothing is no big deal considering the amount of empty seats but it's good PR for the club and obviously that is why they have done it. People who sign up do so knowing the risks, they also get paid for the job they do. If someone who was home on leave wanted to go and watch Motherwell there is nothing to stop them doing so. Plus as has already been said there are other sections of the community who do risky jobs every day in life, why not give them free season tickets as well? The reaction on the first thread about this was mixed, it's not just the 3 ignorant fools as you call them who had concerns about it. There are plenty people out there who can't afford to go and see Motherwell week in week out, why don't the club throw a few season tickets in their direction. They won't though because it doesn't have the sympathetic slant to it as giving people tickets who are serving soldiers. I also hardly think the club are going to be put off making gestures because a few people have said how they feel on a fans messageboard.

Why is it playing games? I don't think there's anything in the slightest disrespectful or controversial in Gannon's comments, he's simply being honest. How do any of us know that he hasn't already had conversations with players to that effect? Is he supposed to say when asked, no I'm keeping every single player on the books, even the ones who are getting paid handsomely to sit in the stands every week incase I offend them or any Motherwell supporters who might get a bit outraged at my comments. To me it sends a clear message, if you aren't performing give yourself a boot up the arse if you want to stay here. If people respect that they will either do exactly that, or stick out the petted lip and be unhappy. It's a bosses job to make tough decisions and as for the media, it's not the first time in MFC's history that a manager has come out and said similar so why Gannon is getting flak for it I do not know. As for respect, only Gannon and the players themselves truly know the respect they have or haven't for one another.

So what if they have been here ten years? If they aren't performing he is quite right to say that unless certain people show what they are made of they will be heading towards the exit door. Some people aren't earning their wages seems a very reasonable assessment and it's Gannon who manages them and sees them day to day, I would think he has a fair idea what he is talking about.

Great day, what I remember most about that day was Chris McCart being interviewed on the radio and the tone of the interview being that we were going to Parkhead and we wouldn't have a chance in hell. Having to hang on for 82 mins till that final whistle and at the end the entire Motherwell support going absolutely mental.

A 1984 goal I think, Dougie Arnott 8 minute goal against Celtic at Parkhead, also a couple from Owen Coyle, sure it was against Dunfermline, maybe 1997, we hadn't won in a few games, all I can remember is when he did score, the entire stadium went mental.

I thought the person at the receiving end wouldn't be charged when I paid that way but obviously not. However, even if you mark the donation as a gift you still need to choose to pay the paypal fees at your end. If you don't and you send 10 quid, the recipient only gets £9.46 Anyway, hope you manage to get the amount needed.

£10 me (Pauline).

I got the letters emailed to me this morning, thanks to whoever passsed the message on.

To anyone donating, if you put it down as a purchase for goods, you won't be charged the paypal fees, you do still get charged if you send it as a gift.

Could someone from the Trust look into a letter being sent out to me? I paid the membership at least 6 months ago, online and through paypal so there should be a record of my email address on the system somewhere. I've had no communication from the Trust since I made the payment.

Didn't get a renewal letter, like someone else who posted I've had no communication from the Trust since I joined.

I'd report anything to the club or the police if I thought it meant someone being ill treated. With no hesitation.

I entirely agree but shoving a fourteen year old lad out of the stadium and giving a member of his family abuse is not on. I don't care about the amount of good work that goes on behind the scenes when incidents like that happen, because it ruins it. I worked with young people for 17 years, if I had lifted my hands to a 14 year old I'd have been sacked and never worked in that line of work again. So what makes Motherwell fc different. What makes it worse for me is that we are having one of the best spells on the pitch we have had for a long time and this happens. Anyone connected with MFC should be big enough to take criticism on the chin when stuff like this happens. I don't know the safety officer at Motherwell but as far as I am concerned the buck stops with her. I don't care who steps in and sorts this mess out but someone should. Soon.

Yes it does, you lay your hands on someone under 16 and you could potentially be in real trouble, Motherwell football club take note. The silence from those who post on here connected with the club is deafening, it's about time someone actually spoke out. I'm assuming that the stewards are employees of MFC. If I had lifted my hands to any young person I worked with it would have been a sackable offence. A 14 year old was flung out the ground, manhandled and when he asked to phone a parent he was told to fuck off? What would have happened if something had happened to him on the way home if someone hadn't been able to contact his mum? Do you want the club splashed all over the press? For all the wrong reasons? What a way to treat a fan, it's absolutely disgusting. How on earth can anyone connected with the club think this is in any way acceptable. It's a disgrace. Anyone within the club who even thinks this is acceptable needs to take a long hard look at how you are treating sections of fans who pay good money to watch the club. You do not lift your hands to teenagers or any other Motherwell fan. The fact that it was an under 16 makes it worse because anywhere else that steward who touched him would never work in that line of work again. It is not acceptable, end of and there should be an inquiry as to why there are people who have a yellow jacket on who are employed by MFC who seem to be little more than power crazed thugs. Motherwell fc, whether you like it or not, you are accountable for these employees.

Who cares how we got the result. We got it, 5 games unbeaten. We can grind them out every week for all I care. Well done Motherwell, well done Gannon. That was the team we needed to beat and we did it.

I paid my 10 quid about a year ago, heard nothing from any person associated with MST. Won't be doing it again. Shambles of an organisation that can't even acknowledge a payment from someone wanting to support it.

Ego trip? Or maybe just wanting players to watch more closely the style of football he plays. More of an egomaniac than McGhee, you are having a laugh surely? Listen to the man when he's being interviewed, the passion for the game comes across and the passion for doing as good as job as possibly he can for Motherwell shines through. Fair play to him for giving the youngsters a chance. Of course there are going to be question marks but for gods sake, we are unbeaten in the league, remember times where we were scraping along the bottom till Christmas? I do. Dealing with someone who has a passion for the game and not only talks the talk but walks it as well.

From the Evening Times MOTHERWELL will issue their fans with warnings before their match with Aberdeen at Fir Park in November to ensure there is no repeat of the abuse of former manager Mark McGhee. McGhee was subjected to sickening taunts at Pittodrie on Saturday as his Dons team clashed with the Steelmen in a Clydesdale Bank Premier League match. The former Celtic and Scotland striker left Well in the summer to take over from Jimmy Calderwood as boss at the club he had won the European Cup-Winners' Cup with as a player. advertisement The actions of a small section of the Motherwell support embarrassed a club renowned for the good behaviour of its followers. And senior officials are keen to ensure there will be no repeat when Aberdeen play for the first time at Fir Park in the league on Saturday, November 21. The matter will be discussed at board level and appeals will be issued through the media as well as on the club website and in club publications to ensure the reputation of the club is not tarnished again. Martin Rose, the chairman of the Motherwell Supporters' Trust and a board member, was disappointed to hear the chants as he sat in the stands at Pittodrie. He said: "The fact is that in football players and managers come and go and there is always going to be some barracking of them when they face their former club. "But some of the stuff that went on on Saturday was beyond what could be reasonably expected. "It was very unfortunate and hopefully it will not happen again. "Mark McGhee had relative success during his two seasons as manager of Motherwell and it is disappointing that he was subjected to the level of abuse he was at Pittodrie on Saturday."

Agree totally and hopefully this might make people realise for our club's sake, it is time to move on.

But I think we lose our right to be offended about whether the fans did or didn't say the f word when it's deemed acceptable to call McGhee a paedophile. Half the fans might have been singing that stuff but given 4 or 5 hundred fans went to Pittodrie, it's a small section of our entire support. I suppose we will need to wait and see whether it happens at Fir Park and if more people join in. As for the article about Reynolds, him saying he didn't hear the chants isn't the same thing as saying he got what he deserved. Other managers have walked out on Motherwell on less than friendly terms, they didn't get that kind of abuse.

Ok, I understand but as I said, I think the paedo chants will see the club in trouble no matter what. I hope the idiots who sang these songs understand the potential damage it could have done to Motherwell's reputation. Instead of the papers being full of how well we played, it's all going to focus on these chants and it just gives McGhee a platform to slate the Motherwell fans. In this case deserved.

I'm not sure given the quality of the chants that we have the right to be offended about the way it's portrayed in the media. Arguing about whether we called someone an effing bastard or a sheep shagging bastard kind of pales into insignificance. People can call McGhee what they like but there will be consequences for the club whether we like it or not. I'm surprised that given that everyone seems to have taken to Jim Gannon and the team are doing well, that there seems to be so much dislike towards McGhee and it's getting worse. He's moved on, it's about time we did. A small section of our fans were responsible for this, but they were vocal enough to make sure that we're going to be all over the press for all the wrong reasons. When the truth is that generally our fans are something to be proud of. I wonder what the players and Gannon think of the support tonight. We might think that because we have paid our money we have the right to say anything we like. But if it backfires on the club badly, it's not worth it.

I don't think there's any law against posting something on more than one fans forum if the topic has come up on both forums about prices, anyone has a right to post their view. Not everyone on here posts on FPC and vice versa. As for posting under another username on here, again, not everyone who posts on FPC and here posts under the same username. I don't see the relevance of the harping on comment if you made it because I had spoken about it on FPC. As for your comment about people who are unemployed not smoking or drinking or attending football matches, I don't smoke, I don't spend the benefit I get on JSA but if I want to have the occasional night out or go to the football and I can afford it I will and I don't see any reason why people on low incomes should be priced out of football or patronised and told what they should or shouldn't be spending their benefit on. Shutting the door in people's faces because they have a low income while allowing students and other people on reduced incomes cheap access is ridiculous particularly in these economic times and if you think people should have to volunteer to buy "credits" to get them free entry to FPC, quite frankly it's about the most patronising thing I've ever heard in my entire life. There's enough of a stigma about being on benefit without people telling you you shouldn't drink or smoke or have a life. Everyone is different, just because some people might spend their entire benefit on fags, booze, drugs, doesn't mean everyone will. However you were quick enough to apologise to someone else on the thread who made it quite clear that he managed to attend football, both home and away when he was signing on. Games would have been cheaper then, but I'm sure he was on less money than people get now. He had every right to go to Fir Park then and it should be no different now. I'm quite aware that people on benefit have priorities financially, but if people have ten quid in their pocket and want to go to Fir Park why shouldn't they? What's the difference between someone on JSA and a student who isn't working buying a reduced price season ticket from their student loan? I also looked on Motherwell's website and they currently give free tickets to people under the PHAB scheme and I believe to local schools, but that seems to be it. You want more people through the doors of Fir Park, you reduce prices for everyone and let them make the choice, because it should be no skin off your nose unless you are affected directly what someone else chooses to do with their income.