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1 hour ago, texanwellfan said:
We need a new Miller, McVie, McLaren
Miller, McVie & McLaren would last about 20 minutes between them today.
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39 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:
You mention hindsight but surely Seddon injury is just sub on Wilson as direct replacement. A number of posters pre game were ok with starting Watt with the intention of replacing him with TJ after about an hour and also bringing on Sparrow at the same time to keep up the energy in midfield. You have O’Donnell on the bench as direct replacement for Kaletta tiring or injury. So it’s not all with hindsight.
I’m a supporter of SK and keeping him here despite his faults (all managers have their specific faults) but it is very frustrating when there is apparently a sensible simple option for keeping up our performance levels with appropriate subs at the right time.Wilson for Seddon was the substitution that was made, my point was the knock on effect of only having 4 more subs. I thought Kaleta was well off the level of the previous week and being replaced with O'Donnell would have had a beneficial effect for the team balance (IMO). My point on hindsight was that the timing and personnel involved in the substitutions ended up with us getting a point despite a numerical dis-advantage, a plus in my book, different choices my have ended in a different result. I wasn't being (over) critical of Kettlewell, I actually quite like him. I was just voicing an opinion that he possibly could have done better with his substitutions.
The bottom line is, I'm glad I'm not the manager 'cos results don't rest on my opinions.
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The argument could be made that the Seddon injury, and substitution, caused a necessary rethinking of the later substitutions. In an ideal world, Seddon would have lasted 90 minutes allowing O'Donnell to replace Kaleta, giving us more defensive nous at the end when we were under pressure. I agree that the subsequent substitutions should have been earlier, both due to fatigue (Ap Stam, Watt & Halliday) and tactically, getting TJ into the fray earlier. We could have risked Paton or Watt playing 90 minutes and replaced the other one with O'Donnell allowing Kaleta to move forward, or to put O'Donnell on instead of Moses, but everything is easier with hindsight.
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Pass marks to the Ox, Gordon, Ap Stam & Paton, we lost sharpness after Seddon's injury and only got it back with the introduction of TJ & Moses. Went with AP Stam for his non stop effort.
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I fair enjoyed today, we played some good football, scored some good goals, there were lots of discussion points and we won. I then spent an hour post match with my brother-in-law (a 'Well fan) and four of his pals (Dundee U fans) and we agreed that it was an entertaining match with some terrible defending by both teams and an inconsistent referee. I hope I would be so gracious if the final score had been 3-4. I suspect I couldn't have spent that time with too many Old Firm fans.
The bottom line is that if you want to watch a team dominate the opposition and not give up any chances, you shouldn't be at Fir Park or Tannadice, go to watch Celtic instead. I know where I would rather be though.
Edit, Meant to post that in the match thread, sorry.
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Two goals and an assist make it a very easy choice today. A lot of good performances but Apostolos Stamatelopoulos was the stand out. (Yes, that was a copy and paste effort)
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13 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
Thats exactly my take on it Joe. A simple attempt to protect himself, no more no less.
On a related matter, St Johnstone's chalked off goal. I'm not sure exactly what happened but reports suggest that Sanders punched or guided the ball into the net with his hand. If true, I suspect he wouldn't have owned up? Now if a defender stops a certain goal with his hand or arm deliberately, he would be red carded, unless your name is Mark Reynolds. That being the case shouldn't an attacker who deliberately punches/pushes the ball into the net with his arm/hand also be red carded?
Just a thought.
With a view from the Cooper stand we had no idea of either incident in real time. Having watched Sportscene however, my immediate reaction to the "equaliser" was exactly the same as yours, if a defender had committed the offence to save a goal, there is no way he would have avoided a card of some colour, and given that the ball went directly into the goal, how does that differ from Casey's red card v St. Mirren. You could argue that Sander's offence is a deliberate act of cheating.
As to Halliday, I don't think a penalty is justified but I'm not totally surprised at the decision. We are back to consistency though, there was a very similar handball in the Hibs v St. Mirren game on Saturday that didn't even warrant a mention.
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I have no issue with the throw-in decision, as long as the officials are consistent in the application of the law. Spoiler alert**** they aren't.
From the Cooper stand it was impossible to tell whether the corner went out the park, it did look like the referee gave the decision rather than the linesman though, and he had as bad a view as I did.
The referee was as poor as most Scottish referees, he stopped play several times for offsides when the play had broken down and the defence was in possession, it just slows the game up for no reason at all, except to allow the ref to be the centre of attention. Some of his decision making was just baffling.
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Seddon for me, honourable mentions for TJ, Kaleta & Sparrow.
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Used to use that Tom Harks tune regularly at FP. Insert the name of an opposition player you don't like, EG Craig Levein, and sing:
Levein is a wank
Levein is a wank
Levein is a wank
Levein is a wank
Ad infinitum.
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I thought we thoroughly deserved three points today, we created, by far, the better chances and, for all St. Mirrens possession, they never really looked like scoring after the penalty save. Tanser may feel hard done by in terms of when the second yellow was issued, but he got away with quite a lot between the two yellows without a word from a very poor referee. Oxborough was my MOM, his save in first half injury time was unbelievable (disgracefully not shown in the BBC highlights) and the penalty save was top class too. Miller is outstanding and Wilson may earn us a few quid too if he keeps developing at this rate. Ap Stam looked good when he came on, I have high hopes for him.
As for St. M's feeling of injustice with some of the decisions..........get it right up them. 😄
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Oxborough for me, Miller, Wilson & Davor all worthy of a mention.
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Rollo Kyle was his name (I think). Add in the indirect free kick against Celtic in the mid 2000's semi-final for the keeper (Woods I think) not releasing the ball quickly enough, another rule rarely enforced.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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1 hour ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:
Ewan Wilson called up to the Scotland Under-21 squad.
What, before he has been linked with Rangers or Celtic? Someone didn't get the memo.
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I liked Broomfield,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I just didn't like walking in to it. 😧
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17 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:
Magic result, happy forum tonight
Have you ever been on this forum before? There are one or two who are only happy when we lose.
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That was a very enjoyable day today, arguably our best home performance for more than a year.
I could make a case for several to be MOTM but we had no failures at all. As someone else said, Oxborough and Gordon have given us a spine to build a solid looking defence round and the addition of Maswanhise, combined with the emergence of Wilson, and SOD's new lease of life has given us some attacking impetus. Halliday looks like he is faster than a couple of weeks ago and Davor, who I thought we should have taken off when Sparrow and Seddon came on, was everywhere when Hearts tried to up the tempo.
I was worried that we were going to revert to last season's tactic of trying to hold on to what we have rather than keep doing what we were doing well, but after our 15 minute wobble, we finished strongly and in the end, 3-1 flattered Hearts. Our work rate for the last 15 minutes was very impressive and I thought we managed the game well at the end.
Mostly though, I just love beating Hearts. 🍺😁🍺
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Went with SOD.
Wilson, Watt, McGinn & Gordon all played well too. As did Halliday and Maswanhise in the first half.
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Maswanhise for me, he changed the game when he came on. SOD, McGinn & Wilson all played well as did the Ox. Miller continues to impress, several turns that gave him acres of space, I don't think we will be able to hold on to him for too much longer.
If there was an option for whoever coached them to keep a hold of the ball from our own throw-ins I may have voted for him/her, I haven't seen us manage to do that so often for years.
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1 hour ago, wellfan said:
The Stockholm syndrome on display on this forum is amusing.
I don't think you know what Stockholm Syndrome is.
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On 7/23/2024 at 4:31 PM, MJC said:
Lee McCulloch must have been on decent money with us too, especially as we knocked back a reported bid of £1M from Hearts in late 99. It’s scary looking back at the money we were throwing about at that time and in reality we got very little in return for it.
I don't think we ever got the chance to knock back Hearts, my memory is that any time we had an upcoming game with the Arse of Midlothian, Ba' faced Jeffries would plant the story with a pet journo that he wanted to sign him to try and unsettle him.
The same Jeffries that told his Kilmarnock players to take it in turn to kick seven shades out of Hammell every time we played them, once one got booked someone else took over that responsibility, it's a good job Jeffries has no 'Well connection or he would win this thread hands down.
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Ah, never gave a thought to Clyde.
Just win baby.
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1 hour ago, ropy said:
Clyde winning still means that we need to win, at least on penalties
I think a loss on penalties is enough, we will have 9 pts, they will have 8.
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Lennon Miller was head and shoulders above everyone else. Wilson and Davor did ok.
MOTM Rangers 29-Dec-2024
in Club Chat
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Quite a few candidates today, Paton, Maswanhise, Ap Stam & Liam Gordon all due consideration. I went with the Ox though, blameless for the two goals and looked back to his best at coming off his line after a few shaky displays. Good to have options.