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I think making him our record player for returns, when he never seems to want to be here, and pairing him with long up front would at least be good for the banter.

Pretty sure the last deal we had with them had a sell on, so don't see why we wouldn't have one this time. I'd expect a similar fee from last time, with some of the upfront money being moved to add ons for games played, to mitigate the injury risk.

It’s hard to imagine that we won’t strengthen the team somehow if we bring in the expected amount for Turnbull. However, offloading players, as much as folk may dislike them, just doesn’t happen that easily.

Think I’ve depressed myself, I’m going to drink beer, watch wrestling, and change my mind about moving back.

From the above, I find it hard to see where he’s exploiting inefficiencies in the English lower leagues to our benefit. Many of our best signings recently have been Scottish - Gallagher, O’Hara, Polworth we’re all a big part of last season, supplemented by Scott and Campbell. Donnelly and Gillespie are definite plus signings from him. Outside of Kipre. Our previous fees were Heneghan and Johnson, and then we have Scott and Hastie who came through our system. Our next bunch of sales will be Campbell, Turnbull and maybe Gallagher.

I saw him mentioned on the Robbo thread, and thought we could look at his signings since he joined in 2016ish and assess whether we think he’s been good or not. This is a list of what I got from Wikipedia or the top of my head, might be the wrong years, but a start. I’ll update if needed. Since foyle is the head of recruitment i think he should be held responsible for all transfers in good or bad, otherwise it’s hard to draw the line where he identified a player or whether it was someone Robinson knew, or Gallagher’s mate, or a dodgy YouTube video. What constitutes success? That’s definitely up for discussion. Did the player actually play a decent amount of games? Did we sell him? Did he go on to “better” things? 2020 - Lang, McGinley, Fox, Lamie, O’Donnell, White, Hastie 2019 - Gallagher, Polworth, Carroll, Sloth, Hylton, Long, Seedorf, Ilic, Manzinga, Mugabi, Watt, McIver, Robinson, Aarons, Cole, O’Hara 2018 - Gillespie, Johnson, Taylor-Sinclair, Donnelly, Gorrin, Mbulu, Ariyibi, Sammon, McCormack 2017 - Fisher, Bigi, Tanner, Carson, Rose, Griffiths, Dunne, Kipre, Newell, Plummer, Ferguson, Petravicius, Grimshaw, Hartley, Main, Aldred, Gordon , Hendrie, Ciftci 2016 - don’t know who were his signings or the other guy’s. In the same rough period, players to come through our system and play more than a token game or two: Cadden, Campbell, Hastie, Turnbull, Maguire, Scott, Semple

Get a hold of yourselves, even joking about Hughes is a step too far, he’s fucking rubbish. If Robinson goes, Lasley is our next manager. But Robinson isn’t going anywhere.

There’s a big difference between dominating a game and being allowed to have possession. We had a five minute spell at the start of the second half where we put them under real pressure, but that was it. Throwing in all the strikers at the end like we were all over them was a huge mistake, at that point it was clear that accies were waiting for their opportunity, and we handed it right to them. they beat us because they have the mentality of underdogs that have to fight for every point, while we strolled about thinking we were a big deal. Seedorf has a habit of hiding then making his run when it’s too late, giving the impression he has space, when he is just terrible, and hylton just isn’t offering anything. If white hadn’t given away a foul I’d have forgot all about him. I had to go online and check when long came on, seems like he was operating in the same black hole as white.

Absolutely woeful. We have been well and truly sussed out by everyone, and we’re stuck with who we’ve signed now.

Bevis had so much of the ball because Hibs were happy to let him have it. Either way, he was fine and deserves just as much credit for the clean sheet as anyone else. In fact the worst pass of the day goes to Turnbull, but I’ll get over it. It was good to see Gallagher stroll a game again.

Far better showing today, and I felt that we were the better team. I’ll go with the old cliche of taking a point before the game though, cos I thought we were going to get hammered. Lamie and O’Hara looked far better today, and we weren’t troubled by their wingers at all. O’Donnell made a huge difference, and fuck knows how Turnbull was able to play him in at center forward at some point. Campbell was immense and I sincerely hope he gets back what he’s put into his game. As great as Turnbull is, watching Campbell improve is a joy. Lang certainly offers something, but we still look ineffective up front. White improved when he started coming short, but I’m still not convinced by him.

We were rubbish midweek, but wasn't Lamie the only one out of position? Maybe O'Hara?

I assumed Robinson was alluding to Gallagher and Long. However he’s done this before and started with the same XI in the next game. I wasn’t at all impressed by White. He won a couple of things in the air but committed way too many fouls. He did win the penalty against County and scored* against Utd, so useful sub is probably where he is right now. I have to assume that Watt isn’t fit, and the same for Hylton. Donnelly is more important to us than we all want to admit, outside of pish penalties. Bevis was ok, but surely Maguire, Hussain or Devine could do a similar job? My biggest concern is that of all the injuries, none are right backs, but we look weaker there than anywhere. I like grimshaw, but he’s not giving us anything at either end of the pitch right now, he needs competition at the very least. It’s going to be a long, weird, season.

Both teams were pretty poor, and I wasn't that impressed by Dykes after all the hype. We are so weak at full back, and we can't afford to have that if we want to play with 2 wingers. Two well taken goals from us, and it's great to see Turnbull back amongst the goals, as we're going to rely on him. The goals we conceded were avoidable. We need hylton to be fit, and Long shouldn't be starting.

I loved Alex McLeish’s shite team, it shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as that Malpas abomination of a side

We were poor. teams are going to happily let us “dominate” possession if that’s all we can do with it. We didn’t pose any threat whatsoever.

Casper Sloth was 5 years ago, he's a grandad now.

If you just changed you mind it’s ok, it was worth a go.

The penalty we gave away was plain stupid, then missing ours was worse. We looked better with Seedorf on the right, and should have scored a few times, particularly Lang’s effort which looked harder to miss. Long should have put his chance away too. We looked the better team after they scored, but that was probably because they knew the job was done. Grimshaw had a terrible game, and so did Robinson. McGinley looks to have some pace and improved as the game went on, and Lamie looked fine. Lang looked decent until the misses, and I didn’t see the red card. Hastie was poor as well. Their managers hair should cost them points.

We could have won the league if we had 11 men!

I'm enjoying this series, this is the best one yet. That calf stretch Carroll does scares me though.

I watch it in the browser on my fire stick. The only issue I have is my crappy rural broadband. Interesting that they're advertising that you get all of the games this year, when last year we couldn't get rangers, st Mirren, accies and livi away. Slightly higher price, but still pretty good.

I just assumed we were keeping him warm for Celtic. I think Newcastle would be a great move, although I have a soft spot for Stoke after watching Marvellous last week.

The January recall clause is pretty standard, and something we tend to do with the players we loan out, makes plenty of sense. I don’t like how his move from us came about, but I’m also not deluded enough to think players owe us anything or that they don’t support other teams. I’m not a football player, but if I was offered multiples of my current wage to do the same job somewhere else, I’m taking that. The reason I’m not particularly enthused by this move is that he was pretty poor towards the end for us and hasn’t done anything since his move, so there’s a concern he’s been found out. But he’s still young and if he can recreate his purple patch, even for a short period, he could be a good signing, so he will get the same benefit of the doubt as any other signing. During this period of global weirdness, bringing in someone who has only been away from the club for a year since he was a wean, who has a good relationship with our other youngsters, may actually be beneficial.

I'm guessing they'd be selling/releasing players rather than loaning them out at this point.