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Paterson is a person trainer now. He's probably fitter than when he was slowmo-ing down the wing for us.

Marvin has been hearing and reading pish about being a million pound player all summer and probably has his heart set on living closer to home and being significantly better off come September. Now reality has bitten him in the arse in the form of not getting a kick against journeymen Dundee players and the transfer request is a final straw clutch.

Celtic have plenty of CL cash. Them overpaying for Marvin would be tremendous. Look at how they got stung for GMS and Cifti.

That site is obviously connected to his agents. It was a sad sight seeing him trying to do a goodbye lap to general indifference on Saturday.

Nope. He was fucked for most of the second half but he did get a wee second wind near the end after playing at walking pace for 30 minutes. Every game i've seen him he's completely disappeared after half time.

Strange to see Clay being mentioned when he took a good 30 minutes off. He's so unfit he was struggling to chase back in the first minute after half time.

Cheers McGhee. Wingers on the wrong side until we were dead on our feet, fat Faddy the only sub, not a centre forward anywhere in sight and Clay walking about for the entire second half. Million pound Marv might have to be wrote down a bit before the window closes.

Having full backs that were better on the ball than most opposition midfielders meant we could play high up the park and press our wingers right up. Hateley was a good player for us who had a few spells of poor form. But in terms of goals, assists, clean sheets, always being available and what we produced on the park he was a very successful player for us.

Or winning at Killie looks better....

The u19 comment is funny. The only player he can mean is Campbell and he won't give him 15 minutes as a sub.

I noticed ex Falkirk midfielder Jay Fulton scoring for Swansea tonight. He would surely be worth a loan inquiry?

We surely aren't in a position where the manger is sending messages to the board via team decisions? It's not like we are Chelsea or Real Madrid with complicated politics or an enigmatic owner.

The frustrating thing is we have got results against far, far superior Old Firm teams with big contributions from our youth players who eventually weren't good enough for the top league. Winners against Celtic by Fagan, Ross and Fitzpatrick. Darren Smith getting a 90th minute equaliser against Celtic. Kinniburgh with a goal in the 4-4 each game and MotM the last time we beat Rangers in the league. When you have a small squad you need to squeeze every drop out of it. McGhee's lack of subs at Ibrox and especially Celtic Park is very, very strange.

Disagree. He did well enough to earn a two year deal in his first six months here and i've no doubt that you were posting it was a good move (probably by 'Barra'). He then had a poor start to the season with the club descending into chaos off the park and Law outside him on the park. After East FIfe he put in two decent performances in the home draw with Ross County and win at KIllie. After that he played one more game at centre back up at Ross County in a defence with Kennedy, Law and Marvin at left back. Ferguson is in the final year of his deal, didn't get great reviews in League One and is nowhere near the first team. Kennedy is a likeable guy who will go in where it hurts but is a complete bomb scare. It astounds me that anyone would think either of the two of them are better options than Laing.

I was at the League Cup match and watched the other two live on TV. We fell out the game as badly against Rangers as we did against St Johnstone in the final 30 with players constantly isolated in defence and attack. Dundee looked strong in the second half against Rangers but lacked quality to create chances. They were also very unfortunate that Forrester wasn't sent off while we were lucky not to give away a penalty. We are not a team who can play for 90 minutes (or even 75) and the manager has had already said he won't be willing to use subs next Saturday.

Dundee were poor in the first half against Rangers but came on strong in the second half. Compare that to our two games vs Sevco (and factor in the final 30 mins against St Johnstone) and it's not hard to see the writing on the wall here.

We could have used one of the teenagers to come on and give us fresh legs in midfield. Instead we put in McDonald who is in poor shape and and had put in a good shift up front. The result of the substitution was that we ended up with Blyth up front doing absolutely nothing and McDonald making the mistake that led to their winner. If we don't have a midfielder in the u20s who can put in a better 15 minute shift than a knackered McDonald it's a bad reflection on everyone involved.

McGhee's word isn't exactly worth much. If we got compensation for Leitch Burrows can easily mention it on twitter as he did for Hall.

The manager was discussing fitness during the week. It was discussed on here prematch. It cost us again today and it's not even as if Rangers had a team of powerhouses out other than the two fullbacks.

Lasley, age. Clay, step up from non league. Chalmers, not an athlete. Marvin, over worked (having him on for the 90 at Celtic Park was stupidity). McDonald, wee fat and doesn't turn up to the start of preseason.

We were barely in their third in the second half due to lack of fitness. McDonald, Marvin, Clay, Las and Chalmers were all burst by the end.

Lack of fitness and no midfield cover on the bench has killed us.

Currently eating a pie in a National League stand. Loads of talent, terrible attitude. We are looking comfortable here. The stream is shit but everyone looks to be working much harder than last week.

I said that we needed McDonald because we couldn't count on Moult, Fletcher, Moore or Clarkson to score goals. Moult thankfully came good and he's got great positional play and competes well physically for his size. Blyth hasn't shown anything yet other than that's he's a big unit. I don't think we can expect too much from him.

I don't think Blyth has shown anything other than the willingness to be an ineffective battering ram. His sub appearance last week was at the level of Casagolda.