Faddyisgod

Happy new year from war-torn Israel! Hope everyone has a good one!

Inverness for me to and if we continue to play like we did on Saturday, comfortably in the top 6 for us. All the clubs above us are due a sticky patch and we are hopefully through ours so we should be fine.

But who on this board honestly believed, at the start of the season that we would be 3rd? I honestly dont remember anyone saying that and I know I certainly didnt because of the way the other teams in the SPL had strengthened in comparison to us!

I cant see a conflict of interest here at all. 'Flow is more than entitled to have his say and as we know these boards are an independent fans forum that is in no way associated with the club. I for one am pleased that 'Flow continues to post on here as he is one of the more thoughtful and intelligent posters and if we have debates like this then it can only be of benefit to both the club and this website.

This is a very interesting and well constructed post 'Flow and to be honest I cant argue with most of it and wouldnt want to. In fact I highlighted some of these points in my original post, perhaps most importantly the fact being that I believe that we have a very talented group of players and despite our slump this season, a talented manager and we should be further up the league than we are at the minute. Also I would never think for one second that we would automatically be challenging for 3rd spot once again, particularly with the improvements that teams like Hearts and Dundee United have made over the close season. However when we are joint bottom of the league as we were last week, fans should be allowed to express their opinions on the teams battling qualities of the team and I suppose we are going to disagree on that because in the derby match 2 weeks ago it seemed to me as though Hamilton did want it more and seemed hungrier than our players. I also agree with you that even in my sport, you can always have an off day and go through slumps in form that are difficult to get out of. However, the massive difference between myself and professional footballers is that when I go through a slump of getting knocked out of tournaments in the 1st or 2nd round, I dont get paid and will nearly always make a loss for that week and no matter what anyone says, it motivates you to work so much harder at the next tournament when you know there wont be any money in your bank account at the end of the month. Therefore perhaps football clubs should be looking at a small monthly wage and a generous bonus scheme to help motivate their players to perform better (obviously this is more a general football thing, but it could work at a club like Motherwell). For what its worth though, I do agree that we will probably make the top 6 this season if we continue to play like we did against Inverness and that for me would be success. Forza Motherwell!!

I agree with just about everything you say 'Flow except this part to be honest. At the end of the day the players have shown how capable they are last season and considering the amount that certain players within our squad and the manager himself collect in wages then we should at least see a bit of fight and determination when the chips were down over the previous six games (excluding Inverness of course). Moreover I think it would be fair to say that in most of those games that passion and belief that may pull you through and help you pick up a point instead of losing a game was sadly lacking. At the end of the day we are Motherwell, nobody on this messageboard believes for one second that we should be winning every game we play. However there should certainly be 100% effort and fight to try and win a game. And between November and Most of this month that was sadly lacking.

RIP Phil

Faddy, O'Donnell, Leitch and Rab McKinnon in that order.

Excellent today! Only my 5th game os the season but thought we were much improved on last week. O'Briaen, Clarkson, Hughes and Kimpl were standouts for me today but really the whole team were excellent. Role on the Midden next week, even if I wont be there!

Well seemingly he was in the Garage in Glasgow after the derby defeat last Saturday so maybe he got a chill in there!

Sadly Jay, your probably spot on with that comment.

Think his last goal for us against Killie at Rugby Park the November before he died I think it was. I had only arrived back from the States that morning and me and the old man went down for the game. The goal was nothing special, a deflected effort from outside the box that won us the game, but his fist pumping celebration will always remain in my heart!

Merry christmas to all the Well fans around the world. Heres hoping for a win on Saturday!

Pretty sure his girlfriend is at Nottingham Uni so that may explain his eagerness to go there. If he goes I'll wish him all the best. We were all promised a goalscorer at the start of last season and whilst he's no been firing on all cylinders this year, he is still a quality player who lived up to the hype last season.

so do mine!!

Assault?

Yeah 100% true - Over the last few months I think it is even more noticeable about how much we miss Phil in the middle of the park.

Can you blame him the way Porter's being playing recently? How must he feel when he watches Hughes' performances over the last few months as well, when you consider the amount of money he is allegedly paying out for him to.

Saunders for me, easily the best of a rotten bunch.

At least they would have the club in their hearts!

Could I just ask 'Flow, as it is probably your area of expertise, whereabouts the opening hours for the ticketing office are on the official website? I couldnt find them when I was looking for them earlier as my dad wanted to get a ticket for the accies game. If I've missed them then I apologise for bringing it up!

Doubt I will be renewing to be honest, mainly because I've only been to 3 games on the season ticket this season and I will hopefully be travelling even more next year. I'm also shelling out almost 500 euro for my Roma season ticket so I would much rather keep that to be honest.

Ian St John's record was amazing! Never realised he scored as many goals!

Cant believe that its almost a year since Phil passed away. How time has flown by.

Got mine as well. I suppose the free tickets may come in handy for the family but I'll reserve judgement on Mr Boyle's latest offers!