Kmcalpin Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Tonight was never going to influence our position much. It was the hardest of our remaining games and a narrow defeat was very much on the cards. Our season starts next Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I think our season will end next friday.... <_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 No need to pish our frillies yet,but Accies game is now huge. Can we at least stop the 'troll' discussion and insults, fair enough if you disagree and articulate that point but abuse is not on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjy Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'm usually pretty positive but that performance tonight was typical of a team that will be relegated. We were pretty toothless in attack. Apart from the goal Langfield did not have a save. At the other end we gave away two cheap goals. When you give free headers at corners and have a complete cock up by the goalie for another you know you are in bother. No punch up front and a defence that gives away goals is typical of a team that will go down. Tonight is the first time I have felt we will not get out of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_in_drublic Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Didn't think we were too bad tonight. Not going into meltdown but hopefully the players don't lose the confidence and momentum they built up as that's the last game I that we play that I truly believe I would be an uh ill battle, away to Aberdeen is never easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fultanio Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Calm down guys all is not lost. We have improved last few games and bob Mchugh is fit again. We will be ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianc Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Are you aware that it's March? We've 9 matches left and we probably have to win 5 of them to avoid a play off at the very least. Yup Been down there crash helmets on v Morton in the Jumbo years. Still think well do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Good to see DEWELL back and as SANE as ever. He'd been AWFY QUIET the last two GAMES. Funny that, EH?!?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that hat Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Just back and saying thanks Andy_P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 From my point of view...Scort McDonald looked a league above everyone on the park and its a tragedy our defence apears to be a complete and utter liability. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc88 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 For me it was a worrying and sickening way to lose after such good work to go in front. Every point is a prisoner and the mistakes last night were unacceptable. Before last night Long had done absolutely nothing to suggest he is any better than Dan. After last night he should be dropped. 1st goal - OK it was a free header which was criminal, but a cross inside the 6 yard box is keeper territory and dealing with crosses was everyone's main criticism of Dan. Great save from the header to be fair, then the less said the better. 2nd goal, what the actual fuck was going through his head? 2 centre half's there to deal with what was nothing more than a hopeful punt. Laing is clearly watching the ball with one intention - nodding it back to the keeper. If long is coming for that (which he should never ever ever ever ever have been) then scream bloody murder to let laing know. Long has potential but he cost us last night and we can't afford that level of complacency in the position were in. Bring back Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee jo Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Probably part of the loan deal means he has to be given game time, so if that doesn't happen, might not be given any more players on loan from that club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc88 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Probably part of the loan deal means he has to be given game time, so if that doesn't happen, might not be given any more players on loan from that club. I would doubt it tbh. But regardless I'd rather have a better chance of staying in the league than worrying about who we can or can't get on loan from sheff utd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shire Greats Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 1426318083[/url]' post='435038']For me it was a worrying and sickening way to lose after such good work to go in front. Every point is a prisoner and the mistakes last night were unacceptable. Before last night Long had done absolutely nothing to suggest he is any better than Dan. After last night he should be dropped. 1st goal - OK it was a free header which was criminal, but a cross inside the 6 yard box is keeper territory and dealing with crosses was everyone's main criticism of Dan. Great save from the header to be fair, then the less said the better. 2nd goal, what the actual fuck was going through his head? 2 centre half's there to deal with what was nothing more than a hopeful punt. Laing is clearly watching the ball with one intention - nodding it back to the keeper. If long is coming for that (which he should never ever ever ever ever have been) then scream bloody murder to let laing know. Long has potential but he cost us last night and we can't afford that level of complacency in the position were in. Bring back Dan. Probably should be dropped after recent mistakes , but who for? Dan has dropped as many changers.there s no point repeating the same mistakes, don't know what young goalie us like, either? Where's Dave Latchfkrd when you need him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmfc Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Despite our much improved performances in recent weeks, sadly if we keep on defending like that, and like we have all season, we'll be in the bottom 2. 2nd goal, God knows why Long decided to come out like that but all Laing needed to do was have a quick look and it could've been prevented. So although the fault lies largely with Long, we had a 2nd chance to prevent the goal happening which Laing failed to take. I think Long should be dropped next week but it won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Its wrong to focus blame on George Long last night. In general he was continually left far too exposed by his 2 full backs and central defence. Aberdeen were afforded far too much time on the edge of our box and on the wings and it was no surprise they scored 2 goals. We have to start protecting the keeper far more. If the opposition can't get in shots or crosses they won't score - end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Dan put in a string of motm performances and then things got too much for him with the volume of shots he was facing each week. I'd bring him back in after some much needed timeout. He's got plenty of heart and natural ability about him. Long and Neilsen have shown that physical frame and presence don't always make the difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Its wrong to focus blame on George Long last night. In general he was continually left far too exposed by his 2 full backs and central defence. Aberdeen were afforded far too much time on the edge of our box and on the wings and it was no surprise they scored 2 goals. We have to start protecting the keeper far more. If the opposition can't get in shots or crosses they won't score - end of. I'd agree to a certain extent. The defending from the corner, particularly from those at the back post, was horribly reminiscent of the goal we lost from a corner at Tannadice. With the ball air for so long someone should at least be competing for it, although you could also argue Long should be coming and collecting. The initial save itself was absolutely outstanding and I genuinely believe if he hadn't punched the ball into the net we would be sitting here discussing a Motherwell victory. The second goal was all down to Long's head not being in the game due to his mistake all of 90 seconds earlier. The problem we have now is I don't think we can drop him. We desperately need some continuity in the team and if that means sticking with Long so be it. I fear though the already fragile confidence in the team will be utterly destroyed by that last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Dan put in a string of motm performances and then things got too much for him with the volume of shots he was facing each week. Thats true of any keeper we could bring in. Week after week they are left totally and unnecessarily exposed to crosses and shots. Last Saturday against Kilmarnock is a perfect example. Last night too, the first goal we lost was poorly defended by Law, I think. We might have a number of right backs but few look up to the job. We know about the left, but maybe its time to play young Watt on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Thats true of any keeper we could bring in. Week after week they are left totally and unnecessarily exposed to crosses and shots. Last Saturday against Kilmarnock is a perfect example. Last night too, the first goal we lost was poorly defended by Law, I think. We might have a number of right backs but few look up to the job. We know about the left, but maybe its time to play young Watt on the right. Law is not perfect but he's doing a decent enough job and preferable to the alternatives. The only significant change we can make from a personal perspective is if Hammell recovers from injury and replaces Straker (who got out of jail courtesy of Long's mistakes last night - an opinion shared by Willie Miller and Craig Paterson). More generally, our defence has been horribly exposed for a number of years now. I don't see it being addressed between now and the end of the season. Encouragingly though, there is a focus from the coaching staff to improve our defence - something that was seemingly missing during McCalls time when we relied upon the quality of Hutchinson and Randolph. Anyway, the reason we lost last night was due to the keeper losing his head. A position most keepers get into at some point; the test will be how he recovers from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 The site gaffer politely asked that the abuse, trolling, discussion of abuse and trolling be left aside. It wasn't. Much of it has now been edited/removed to help keep the thread on track. Some stuff there was no need at all for. Some stuff was fairly accurate in response but I hope you understand why both have gone to clean the thread up a bit. If you suspect someone of trolling - ignore it or continue to take them to task - just leave out the abuse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi-1991 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Long had a bad night, but is miles ahead of what we have had since Randy left (I know, that doesn't exactly say much right enough). Totally gutted to loose the way we did but not surprised in the slightest. However we did play well which doesn't seem like much after a loss but just a few weeks ago u would have bitten your hand of to be able to say we played well after any game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazles ring piece Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Disciplined first half and appeared comfortable to close out this match unless Aberdeen produced some magic. Cue, to MIssion Impossible and this will self destruct in 60 seconds. Don't need to say any more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi-1991 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Disciplined first half and appeared comfortable to close out this match unless Aberdeen produced some magic. Cue, to MIssion Impossible and this will self destruct in 60 seconds. Don't need to say any more! To be honest, it wasn't even magic, it was a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc88 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Long had a bad night, but is miles ahead of what we have had since Randy left (I know, that doesn't exactly say much right enough). Totally gutted to loose the way we did but not surprised in the slightest. However we did play well which doesn't seem like much after a loss but just a few weeks ago u would have bitten your hand of to be able to say we played well after any game. I totally disagree with this opinion. And I'm not just saying that because of last night. He looks the part but that's it. What has he done since he came in to suggest he's better than twardzik? The other week the caley thistle boys header went through him. He hardly covered himself in glory for countys goals either. I only recall one exceptional piece of goalkeeping from him - one on one vs caley (you could add his save from the initial header last night but his next action made up for it). I agree he has potential but right now he's not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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