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Yeah can't disagree with that (although i'm not fine with it 😂). Its just... how? I appreciate i/ we will always be biased towards our team. But that put to one side, the national reaction to it, including down in england, is not like anything we've had up here for as long as i can remember and the overwhelming majority are saying it was wildly wrong. How can anyone have the brass neck to come out now and say it was right? Especially one who is in charge of a group of referees, none of which are selected for representing at a higher level. It's going to be an awful look.

BBC gossip column stating the SFA are to back the decision on wednesday night. Unbelieveable, yet still so believable at the same time. Have not heard one person that isnt of a green bias agree with it. About to make scottish football even more of a laughing stock if true and it becomes official.

Still f**king beeling after last night. I've usually calmed down the day after a bad decision, but not this time. Strange since it doesnt affect what we need to do on saturday, but ruins what would have been a fantastic night for us and scottish football in general. I've never been one for accusing scottish officials of corruption. Bias, incompetence and social pressure influencing decisions in favour of the bigger teams, yes. But not corruption. Last nights VAR decision, there is no defence. Corruption, clear as day for all to see (except those clowns who choose not to).

Pretty sure the cup winners would take the equivalent of 3rd spot (i.e. Aberdeen last year who finished 5th in league)... which would be a laugh seeing rangers pushed down a rung. I would have assumed in that case, the difference between 4th and 5th would be some sort of seeding. Tried to find out but can't see it anywhere so no idea.

My worry about that point is if rohl has started to lose the dressing room the rangers players don't turn up at all. Please lets just do this ourselves!!

Went for SODs, thought he was brilliant. At the end of the match the goaline clearance seemed so long ago i had almost forgotten about it (somehow), but what a moment in the game that was.

I can't understand the viewpoint either. Unless there is other angles I've not seen. But from the VAR replays on sportscene what can really be concluded? Does he trip him? Might do, but angle is head on so can't really tell. Does he stand on his foot? Might do, but camera is far away and grainy AF so can't really tell. All you can conclude is maswanhise steps across kyziridis and his legs vanish from beneath him when he easily could have stayed on his feet - exactly as it seemed in the moment. Granted the camera angle is shite and looks like its filmed on a nokia camera phone, but thats the poundshop VAR we pay for. If they overturn, there can be no guesswork, why is that such a difficult notion 🤷‍♂️ well done to mclean for sticking, would have been easy to cave in there.

See if you close your eyes and just listen, you can almost picture it as a jonathan watson "only an excuse" comedy sketch 😂

Any thoughts on ward being with us/ not being with us next season? Haven't heard anything concrete, but hard to imagine his ability to play combined with the clean sheet record going unnoticed. No idea what sort of fee he could command either.

We were second best over the piece yesterday, no getting away from that, but that is going to happen when you are motherwell. Goals change games though, and f**k me we were hard done by from the officials. Seriously, what is the point in VAR - get involved when they shouldn't and posted missing when needed. Genuinely sick to death of it. Jens has every right to have a pop given what we have been on the end of recently. I wonder if lissah will get the same retrospective punishment as slattery, because said having his arms out certainly didnt make him fall to the ground.

Its not the law, or the wording of it. More the VAR intervention. As i said - for VAR to recommend a red it has to be clear and obvious. Is there enough evidence there to conclude longelo didnt simply make a mess of that? May have to agree to disagree, but not for me. And the fact the VAR check took as long as it did speaks volumes. For the record, if beaton had given a red straight away, i also wouldn't expect VAR to intervene.

I was one of said posters, and taken nothing personally 😁 Defending a corner is entirely different to defending, say, a player through on goal though. If you are defending a corner man for man, I am not sure how you can without knowing where your opponent is... Longelo is looking at the ball to begin, maeda makes the run at which point longelo, turns to face him, ends up in a knot and fouls him. No issue with the VAR intervention for a penalty. Its the VAR intervention for a red and how it can be "clearly and obviously" deemed as anything other than "hes tried to defend the corner and made a mess of it".

For me its the double jeopardy that i have issue with. Penalty yes, and denial of a goalscoring opportunity. But its only a red if its cynically denial of a goalscoring opportunity, otherwise just about every penalty is a red also. Its jostling at a corner, maeda gets the better of him, and the foul happens. Is that a clear and obvious red, when its basically a result of jostling? Not for me. Not like hes scythed him down through on goal. VAR right to step in regarding penalty, shouldn't be recommending a red though. Making it up as they go along though as usual.

Exactly my take on it at the time... Didn't see the incident but sevelj seemed OTT defensive about it.

Maybe i've got my claret and amber specs on, but having seen it on sportscene it was pretty clear cut, no? A bit of tit for tat grappling and shirt pulling by both of them then after the moments passed sevelj gives a cheap shot elbow. Completely stupid. Ricky Foster suggested JTs made the most of it, but he's every right to IMO.