International Players Thread

[dennyc]

24 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

 

He isnt getting sacked before the World Cup though. So onwards we go......

Likely he will not be sacked but I sensed a different Clarke after the game. A bit like Kettlewell after the games at Perth. I would not be surprised if Clarke also walked. I also think the media were a lot less accepting/supportive after the Greece letdown. That might play into Clarke's mindset as well.

Fingers crossed the next two friendlies leave us in a better place. With or without Steve Clarke.

 

 

[wellfan]

1 hour ago, dennyc said:

I honestly believe we have the best pool of players we have had for decades. But it seems to me that Clarke....and Gemmill....are far more focused on not losing than winning. How is that panning out?

Yeh. We have some amount of talent available but his approach is generally pish. Hence my Kettlewelly comment. Perhaps if he focused on the strengths of the players, and not his own stubborn ways, he’d be under less pressure than he currently is. More fool him. 

[twistandshout1983]

11 hours ago, wellfan said:

Gemmill and Clarke only retain their jobs because those who run the SFA are too insular and too stupid to see beyond their own four walls. 

Gemmill has been linked to the Well job in the past I am sure . Dodged a bullet there me thinks 

[wellfan]

Delighted for Miller. He played well tonight, showing his positional awareness and passing ability.

[robsterwood]

Well done miller. That keeper is shizen 

[mio]

Lennon was correct, he is the best player in the team and it took less than the 6 months he originally suggested.

i thought he did very well being flung into that sh1tshow. Well done young man….. and get it up you carver.

[The African]

Very happy to see young Miller get his first Scotland cap as a Motherwell player. I had hoped that such an accolade might even add a little to his value before his imminent departure for pastures new. Now I am not so sure.

[Spit_It_Out]

Sorry but Clarke had to go yesterday he has had his time and now we are going backwards again .

Get a International appearance clause the contract now Cashback!well done  young Lennon Miller.

[mio]

Clarke has humiliated us as a nation in the past 2 euros and I’m not buying the “he got us there” nonsense. It’s never been easier to qualify for this tournament and with the players we have, it should be a shoe in.

I doubt it’d happen but Postecoglou would be a great International manager for us, he may be so traumatised by club football just now that he’d fancy it…. Anyway…. Motherwell is more important…. We need a manager 🤦‍♂️

[grizzlyg]

Young Lennon done well when he came on, always looking for the ball and sprayed a few good passes. Hopefully starts on Monday.  Also good seeing Max get a start

[wellsince75]

I've got a level of sympathy for Clark. 

• The season is finished, for me its a nonsense that friendlies are scheduled in June.
• His win record over his tenure is as decent as any manager in last xx decades.
• Although we have a very strong midfield and LWB the rest of the team is lacking. Keeper, centre halves, striker  - slim pickings. 

Last night was unsurprisingly poor and aligned with last 20 games.  Im not saying Clark is the forward looking answer , equally I don't see it purely as we need to change the manager.

Even back in the 80s when arguably we had some of our best players we had very similar periods. 

[wellfan]

Clark is a stubborn and arrogant clown. Get him to fuck before he further embarrasses us. 

[grizzlyg]

He keeps picking Hanley.....Nuff said

[weeyin]

Clarke initially did the job that was needing done. He took an omnishambles of a national team and consolidated it into one that was difficult to beat and, most importantly, one that the players wanted to be involved with.

And I give him credit for that.

He did well to get us to the first Euros, but his tactics were an embarrassment in that tourney. The second Euros were even worse, because not only had he not learned anything, but he actually went backwards.

That was when he should have been moved on.

Friendlies and injuries aside, the national squad actually has some decent players available now. There were EPL, Champions League, Seria A, Coppa Italia and Austrian Bundesliga winners on the pitch last night that should have been able to play some football.

We are crying out for a manager with a bit more creativity and tactical nous, otherwise we are destined to be one of the few teams who fails to quailfy for the new 322 country World Cup finals.

[Spiderpig]

3 hours ago, wellfan said:

Clark is a stubborn and arrogant clown. Get him to fuck before he further embarrasses us. 

Totally agree with that, he needs to go now.

[robsterwood]

I think Gilmour is vastly over rated. Miller came on and made more passes in forward areas. He's been mainly sub at Napoli. Lightweight and doesn't offer much goin forward. Ferguson not much better. 

[joewarkfanclub]

39 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

I think Gilmour is vastly over rated. Miller came on and made more passes in forward areas. He's been mainly sub at Napoli. Lightweight and doesn't offer much goin forward. Ferguson not much better. 

Sorry but cant agree with that.

Scotland were shite last night, but Gilmour was one of the few actually trying to effect the game and play forward passes.

If McTominay, McGinn and Ferguson had been anywhere near his level we wouldnt have ended up in the shit we found ourselves.

You dont get Antonio Conte signing you unless you have something about you and his lack of game time was down to the fact Napoli have Lobotka who is an outstanding player.

Thought Lennon did very well when he came on and didnt look out of place at all. The experience would have done him the world of good. Be nice if he got a start on Monday but I dont really see it happening.

Re Ferguson, for someone playing at such a high level, Ive yet to see evidence of it in a Scotland shirt. Although, Im not really sure what he is being asked to do by Clarke? The game largely passed him by last night and he rarely showed for the ball. Very strange.

Thought Max did well enough in the circumstances. Hopefully he and Lennon will get better chances to shine going forward.

[wellgirl]

1 hour ago, robsterwood said:

I think Gilmour is vastly over rated. Miller came on and made more passes in forward areas. He's been mainly sub at Napoli. Lightweight and doesn't offer much goin forward. Ferguson not much better. 

Gilmour has had a lot going on in his personal life and he said it affected his game - he had a stalker that was stalking him after he moved to Italy and another footballer was stalked as well. 

[well_said]

7 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Gilmour has had a lot going on in his personal life and he said it affected his game - he had a stalker that was stalking him after he moved to Italy and another footballer was stalked as well. 

He knows what wee callum is going through 🤣

[mfc]

There was nothing to be gained last night by playing the likes of mcginn and gilmour,we all know what they can offer.its a friendly at home to Iceland and the manager doesn't have the balls to move away from a team selection that's hardly won a game in about 2 years.hes a safety first manager that's only legacy will be finding eligible forwards that all turn out to be shite.if we have any ambitions of qualifying for the next tournament then he can't be in charge,he's a dinosaur that doesn't even have a plan a.no wonder the game in this country is a laughing stock and won't ever get above the mediocre with clarke and carver in charge and then you see the likes of Pressley and kettlewell getting jobs.

[wellgirl]

27 minutes ago, well_said said:

He knows what wee callum is going through 🤣

No worries. 

[well_said]

33 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

No worries. 

Only kidding.

[weeyin]

I'm not sure Antonio Conte has been so successful by overrating players; even Billy Gilmour (who made 26 league appearances for him on the way to the league title).

 

[wellgirl]

39 minutes ago, well_said said:

Only kidding.

Thanks.