MJC Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, wellsince75 said: Think Derek Adam’s . He’s under contract and likely we’d get compensation from morcombe I’ve never been able to take him seriously after Jamie Hamill bounced him into the track at Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenboab Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, weeyin said: What's the work permit situation for EU nationals these days? Needs a sponsor (the club if he gets the job) we'd then apply for a certificate of sponsorship, he'd then apply for the Tier 2 sportsperson visa once that has been issued. Whole process usually takes about 3-4 weeks but they can be fast-tracked in two days. I've heard managers moaning about it being really difficult getting players from the EU in which is a load of shite and just an excuse for them and/or to fill up their interviews. Clubs and the player or his agent just need to do some bog standard paperwork. Gets more complicated the lower the level the player/coach is coming from but unless we're signing some teenager from the Latvian 6th tier it's a piece of piss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, David said: You're on top form recently! Cheers David but it won't last....lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Allan Stubbs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 38 minutes ago, El Grew said: Allan Stubbs? Ah'll dae the jokes!! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MearnsWell Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Crags touting Neil Lennon (insider knowledge?) : https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/neil-lennon-touted-motherwell-job-24714908 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, MearnsWell said: Crags touting Neil Lennon (insider knowledge?) : https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/neil-lennon-touted-motherwell-job-24714908 Trying to think of anyone more hated by a support getting a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, MearnsWell said: Crags touting Neil Lennon (insider knowledge?) : https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/neil-lennon-touted-motherwell-job-24714908 That would be up there with Robinson coming back. Why does the old 'managerial merry go round' love to tout people who have managed bigger clubs and failed ? What, anywhere, in Lennons CV would suggest that he can create a team that can punch above it's weight ? His last managerial job didn't exactly end well. And ignoring his managerial achievments for a second, the guy is a cunt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, MearnsWell said: Crags touting Neil Lennon (insider knowledge?) : https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/neil-lennon-touted-motherwell-job-24714908 Neil Lennon in a purely footballing sense would probably be a very good manager for us. The ‘baggage’ that comes with him though just wouldn’t be worth it. As well as being an abrasive, shit stirring individual, he is also the poster boy for people with a very sinister agenda, in football, the media and politics in this country. It just wouldn’t be worth the gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Bit weird of Craggs to speculate . He did a very good job for Hibs would be hard to like him - I remember having a similar view of Micky Weir and then we signed him back in the day never felt right cheering him on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppower Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, MJC_mkII said: I’ve never been able to take him seriously after Jamie Hamill bounced him into the track at Tynecastle. Morecambe that where Robinson was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Not Lennon for me , too much baggage involved there and would bring unwanted publicity to the club Nothing to do with the Celtic connection either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Lennon would at least give us something to shout about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, MearnsWell said: Crags touting Neil Lennon (insider knowledge?) : https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/neil-lennon-touted-motherwell-job-24714908 Would take Lennon in a heartbeat. A horrible chip on the shoulder wee git but he can manage but would get 20 mins tops with the bigots in our support. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: Bit weird of Craggs to speculate . He did a very good job for Hibs would be hard to like him - I remember having a similar view of Micky Weir and then we signed him back in the day never felt right cheering him on Id take the devil himself if he could manage and give us something better than the eye bleeding shite we've had to endure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 47 minutes ago, MearnsWell said: Crags touting Neil Lennon (insider knowledge?) : https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/neil-lennon-touted-motherwell-job-24714908 I'd take Lennon just for the utter bonkers it would cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, wellfan said: I'd take Lennon just for the utter bonkers it would cause. it would be mayhem but above all he has a track record and can manage but hed be too expensive and the club know we have an element in our support whod never take to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 I don't hate him as much as others do, but there is a lot of baggage that comes with him, which isn't all on him. Don't really want the attention from the obsessed and paranoid Glasgow lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: but would get 20 mins tops with the bigots in our support. Attitudes like this are part of the reason it would never work. We’d have a few bad results, some criticism would come from the stands (as would be the case with any manager) and you’d get nonsense like this before you can say “candlelit vigil”. And that’s from our own support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, MJC_mkII said: Attitudes like this are part of the reason it would never work. We’d have a few bad results, some criticism would come from the stands (as would be the case with any manager) and you’d get nonsense like this before you can say “candlelit vigil”. And that’s from our own support. Sadly true but still reckon hed do a job for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 I definitely don’t hate the guy , I just wouldn’t want the baggage, but at the same time I could say the same about the likes of Barry Ferguson The guy has a lot of people in this country who don’t like him for purely bigoted reasons that I never agree with , do remember Craig Brown saying he is a likeable guy and I know he has suffered from a lot of mental health issues in the past Being honest now if he got us a half decent team to watch maybe all the past is forgotten, and if he beats Rangers a few times so much the better , I don’t believe he is even interested in the job though and it is simply Craggs putting his name forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, twistandshout1983 said: I definitely don’t hate the guy , I just wouldn’t want the baggage, but at the same time I could say the same about the likes of Barry Ferguson The guy has a lot of people in this country who don’t like him for purely bigoted reasons that I never agree with , do remember Craig Brown saying he is a likeable guy and I know he has suffered from a lot of mental health issues in the past Being honest now if he got us a half decent team to watch maybe all the past is forgotten, and if he beats Rangers a few times so much the better , I don’t believe he is even interested in the job though and it is simply Craggs putting his name forward I think you are right I still think it will be Valakari which I'm completely neutral about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Sadly true but still reckon hed do a job for us. Initially I think he would too. He has a win at all cost mentality and that did well for him at Hibs as well but it couldn’t be sustained. He was threatening to walk out on Hibs for their lack of ambition for almost a year before he eventually left them. And Hibs are a bigger club than we are with a bigger budget. How long would he last at our “great wee club” before he began to get frustrated? If Neil Lennon came in right now and had to work with this current squad he would be tearing his hair out within a month. And given that he’s not exactly a popular figure within our support - mostly because of his connections with Celtic and his abrasive manner and comments about us lying down to Rangers in 2011 - then some of the support would naturally voice their anger about it. That would inevitably invite the “he only gets abuse because of his religion, cos he’s Irish” nonsense from certain media figures and unfortunately some of our own support. As I said, it’s just not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Sadly true but still reckon hed do a job for us. Did you see the dross he signed for Celtic in his last couple of years ? And that was dealing in the 'money end' of the market. Lennon has never had to manage a budget like ours. The smallest budget he's ever dealt with would have been Hibs and that dwarfs ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Spit_It_Out said: Ps think Nick Daws needs to go to make this work properly. Agreed. He touted using new recruitment models in his first interview in summer 2021, but what has he actually achieved other than being Alexander's pal? Let's look below. 2022/23 McGinn - Alexander signed him in an attempt to force out SOD; released by Hibs and easy to get Spittal - Easy to get replacement for O'Hara; known in Scottish system Morris - Alexander's former player and pals with KVV, so not down to Daws 2021/22 Shields - Signed at the same time as Daws joined; a 3-year project, but not good enough Goss - Decent KVV - Alexander's former player, so not down to Daws Woolery - Average journeyman who they let go Tierney - Promising Nirrenold - Not good enough and released O'Connor - Not good enough and released Kelly - We had him on loan long before Daws was on the scene Roberts - On the scene before Daws but we let go Sol - Crap Efford - Crap Ojala - Signed a Finnished pro Slattery - Decent Shaw - Wasted wage Mahon - B team Amaluzor - Crap Parker - Crap Summary For every Slattery/Goss/KVV/Tierney, we've been dealt a volume of shite sandwiches. And some of the appointments wouldn't have required a Head of Recruitment either. We need a new managerial, academy, and recruitment model that works for our type of Club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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