Busta Nut Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 Having a go for Europe? I'll take easily finishing 7th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 12 hours ago, Busta Nut said: Having a go for Europe? I'll take easily finishing 7th Isn't our Euro co-efficient about to fall off a cliff? Will there even be 5 European places next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 12 hours ago, Busta Nut said: Having a go for Europe? I'll take easily finishing 7th Imo that should be the goal every season, 4/5th couple of ties in Europe and seeded league cup draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 44 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: Isn't our Euro co-efficient about to fall off a cliff? Will there even be 5 European places next season? Think the new format will probably favour our clubs, good chance Celtic, Rangers, Hearts all make it out the League phase in the new format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/26/2024 at 6:53 AM, wellfan said: This is such a tired statement. Competitive action began weeks ago and we knew Spittal was away months ago. We should not be waiting to the last possible minute to sign players in key positions and we should be treating League Cup games with the utmost respect. Domestic cups are our only real chances of success each season and starting the league campaign strong is important. What makes you think the club are "waiting" until the last possible minute to sign players for key positions? Do you honestly believe the management team are sitting around saying, "We still need to replace Spittal, but it’s fine, we can leave it for a bit longer. No need to worry about it just now"? Yes, we knew Spittal was leaving months ago, but we didn’t know who else was staying or going, so we wouldn’t have known our budget. Also, even if we had identified a player months ago to replace him, what makes you think that player would want to commit to us so early? Any agent worth his salary would be advising his players to shop around and see what other options are available before agreeing to anything. There are many factors that go into bringing in new players. It’s nowhere near as straightforward and simplistic as you like to make it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 20 minutes ago, David said: What makes you think the club are "waiting" until the last possible minute to sign players for key positions? Because the league campaign starts in six days. There’s no need to be patronising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 Anyone who wouldn't take Van Veen back after watching that today is off their head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 1 minute ago, steelboy said: Anyone who wouldn't take Van Veen back after watching that today is off their head. van Veen wouldn’t work in Kettlewell’s current set up. There’s no Spittal anymore to support him so he’d be completely isolated upfront. Besides that he has had his purple patch with us and peaked. We wouldn’t get the same van Veen back as the one that we last had in May ‘23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 7 minutes ago, steelboy said: Anyone who wouldn't take Van Veen back after watching that today is off their head. Did you see him for Killie? Anyone who would take him back after seeing him play for Killie is off their head... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, MelvinBragg said: Did you see him for Killie? Anyone who would take him back after seeing him play for Killie is off their head... Exactly. He is 33 years old and his best spell in his career was with us. He hasn’t come close to replicating that since he left us, either at Groningen or Killie. We definitely got the best out of him when he was here but that’s past now. Re-signing him would be akin to signing McFadden for the third time in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 17 minutes ago, steelboy said: Anyone who wouldn't take Van Veen back after watching that today is off their head. Ooooh the 1st genuine troll post of the day is Yodo off shift now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 21 minutes ago, MelvinBragg said: Did you see him for Killie? Anyone who would take him back after seeing him play for Killie is off their head... I saw him play 5 minutes against us. Unless he's lost a limb he'll still be a better option than today's trio. Van Veen is an intelligent player with good technical skills. The three today were various shades of Ollie Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 18 minutes ago, MJC said: Exactly. He is 33 years old and his best spell in his career was with us. He hasn’t come close to replicating that since he left us, either at Groningen or Killie. His goals per minutes at Groningen were still decent he just fell out with everyone. He barely played for Killie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 51 minutes ago, wellfan said: Because the league campaign starts in six days. There’s no need to be patronising. I'm not being patronising; I'm simply asking why you said something that is clearly a bit daft. There's a difference. The club is doing what it always does. They're trying to get the best players they can on a limited budget, while those players are likely receiving similar offers from other clubs and, as they are entitled to do, weighing up their options. The only waiting the club is likely doing is waiting to hear back from the agents or clubs of players they have approached about coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinnae-punt-it Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 O’Donnell - Not good enough, terrible crosser, too slow getting up and back down. Kaleta - Will take 3 months to get up to speed. Katroumbis - No idea as injured. Hopefully better than O’Donnell. Wilson - Not fit or fast enough. Turns back or inside all the time instead of down the outside. Blaney - Not good enough at this level. Easily bullied and not sharp enough in the head. Casey - Got a major blunder in him most games. Regressing after a good start. Davor - Passing poor, only good for breaking up play. Struggles to impose on games. Halliday - Spent force. No legs. Slow in possession. Championship player at best these days. Stuperavic - Struggling with the pace of Scottish football. Hope he comes good, but have early concerns. Robinson - Looks to be lacking confidence. Not convinced he will score enough at this level. Need another Striker, Attacking Midfielder and Left Wing Back. If I was being greedy, a good Defensive Midfielder. Buckle in, because it’s going to be another tough season ahead with the squad Kettlewell has built so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, David said: I'm not being patronising; I'm simply asking why you said something that is clearly a bit daft. There's a difference. The club is doing what it always does. They're trying to get the best players they can on a limited budget, while those players are likely receiving similar offers from other clubs and, as they are entitled to do, weighing up their options. The only waiting the club is likely doing is waiting to hear back from the agents or clubs of players they have approached about coming here. So many words to say heehaw. A speaking clock level of analysis. The bottom line is we have signed 11 players and at the moment appear to have got worse. The idea that Callachan, Nicholson, Balmer and a striker from a diddy team in the A League are going to turn this around seems far fetched. It's exactly the same as last summer when he just signed any old shite at the start of the window. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 8 minutes ago, dinnae-punt-it said: Stuperavic - Struggling with the pace of Scottish football. Hope he comes good, but have early concerns. How can you say he’s struggling with the pace of Scottish football when he’s only played one actual match for us? We’ve not really seen him play in Scottish football yet. He’s played one game and 36 minutes when he’s been brought on from the bench. I can understand you perhaps questioning his record up to this point elsewhere, but claiming that he’s struggling with the pace when he’s only played one full game is quite something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinnae-punt-it Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 Just now, David said: How can you say he’s struggling with the pace of Scottish football when he’s only played one actual match for us? We’ve not really seen him play in Scottish football yet. He’s played one game and 36 minutes when he’s been brought on from the bench. I can understand you perhaps questioning his record up to this point elsewhere, but claiming that he’s struggling with the pace when he’s only played one full game is quite something. Well he got caught on the ball or hurriedly gave it away lots in all appearances so far. Scottish football at most levels is hustle and bustle and he looks like a player that is used to having more time on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 12 minutes ago, David said: I'm not being patronising; I'm simply asking why you said something that is clearly a bit daft. There's a difference. It’s only daft to have said what I said if you subscribe to the view that Kettlewell knows what he’s doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 54 minutes ago, dinnae-punt-it said: O’Donnell - Not good enough, terrible crosser, too slow getting up and back down. Kaleta - Will take 3 months to get up to speed. Katroumbis - No idea as injured. Hopefully better than O’Donnell. Wilson - Not fit or fast enough. Turns back or inside all the time instead of down the outside. Blaney - Not good enough at this level. Easily bullied and not sharp enough in the head. Casey - Got a major blunder in him most games. Regressing after a good start. Davor - Passing poor, only good for breaking up play. Struggles to impose on games. Halliday - Spent force. No legs. Slow in possession. Championship player at best these days. Stuperavic - Struggling with the pace of Scottish football. Hope he comes good, but have early concerns. Robinson - Looks to be lacking confidence. Not convinced he will score enough at this level. Need another Striker, Attacking Midfielder and Left Wing Back. If I was being greedy, a good Defensive Midfielder. Buckle in, because it’s going to be another tough season ahead with the squad Kettlewell has built so far. A very knowledgeable summary of our footballing talent, I bet you play fifa football on your play station quite a lot don't you 🤦♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodo Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 12 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: A very knowledgeable summary of our footballing talent, I bet you play fifa football on your play station quite a lot don't you 🤦♂️ How do u do it your never wrong a real knowledge of football not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinnae-punt-it Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 17 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: A very knowledgeable summary of our footballing talent, I bet you play fifa football on your play station quite a lot don't you 🤦♂️ I’m 43 mate, not played FIFA in about 25 years, but I’ll tell you what I can do, I can watch a game of football and have an opinion. I’ve seen some players play for quite a long time, plenty of time to form an opinion. If you can watch some of those players regularly and not have concerns, then maybe you should play some FIFA! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 2 hours ago, dinnae-punt-it said: Well he got caught on the ball or hurriedly gave it away lots in all appearances so far. Scottish football at most levels is hustle and bustle and he looks like a player that is used to having more time on the ball. He's played one game for us. One entire game. Maybe wait until he's played more than that before judging how he's looking in the Scottish game? By your reckoning Henrik Larsson would have looked like he was "struggling with the pace of Scottish football" when he misplaced that pass under pressure to Chic Charnley in his first game for Celtic. He went on to do not too badly. 2 hours ago, wellfan said: It’s only daft to have said what I said if you subscribe to the view that Kettlewell knows what he’s doing. Exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinnae-punt-it Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 8 minutes ago, David said: He's played one game for us. One entire game. Maybe wait until he's played more than that before judging how he's looking in the Scottish game? By your reckoning Henrik Larsson would have looked like he was "struggling with the pace of Scottish football" when he misplaced that pass under pressure to Chic Charnley in his first game for Celtic. He went on to do not too badly. Exactly. He’s played more than one game, so get your facts straight if you are going to debate! I also didn’t give a definitive verdict, but said he looks like he’s going to need time to get up to speed with the Scottish game. The manager saw fit to hook him at half time, so I can’t be a mile out with what was a poor performance on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 15 minutes ago, dinnae-punt-it said: He’s played more than one game, so get your facts straight if you are going to debate! I also didn’t give a definitive verdict, but said he looks like he’s going to need time to get up to speed with the Scottish game. The manager saw fit to hook him at half time, so I can’t be a mile out with what was a poor performance on his part. He's played 90 minutes of football i.e a game in total; we're arguing over semantics here. That's 90 mins over 4 appearances, when one of them was 45 minutes. Nowhere near enough for someone to get up to speed with a totally different brand/type of football. He's shown flashes as an impact sub but he was definitely "aff it" today. But I'd argue the set up was far from ideal for the majority of the players. How long did it take Gent, Davor and others to settle into the team last season? Weeks, against much stronger opposition than we've faced so far. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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