New Investment Options

[steelboy]

The plan looks good. Hopefully we can all get behind it as a support and move into the next stage of fan ownership. 

McMahon's deal gives us just six years of 'security'. The Well Society is how we genuinely secure the club for future generations of fans.

[santheman]

I'm currently having an online spat with someone who still thinks EBs offer should be accepted.

His reasoning is "At least he's put a figure on his investment all the WS have given us is a load of things theyre hoping will happen"

I'm about ready to punch my screen in.

[steelboy]

5 minutes ago, santheman said:

I'm currently having an online spat with someone who still thinks EBs offer should be accepted.

His reasoning is "At least he's put a figure on his investment all the WS have given us is a load of things theyre hoping will happen"

I'm about ready to punch my screen in.

It's barely an investment. He puts in £1.9m and in return gets a shareholding worth more than that. 

It's making money on the deal not spending it. The Well Society need to spell that out. 

There's also zero detail on what he's planning to spend the 'investment' money on. 

[StAndrew7]

Just now, steelboy said:

It's barely an investment. He puts in £1.9m and in return gets a shareholding worth more than that. 

It's making money on the deal not spending it. The Well Society need to spell that out. 

There's also zero detail on what he's planning to spend the 'investment' money on. 

"Strategic projects", man. Strategic. Projects.

[joewarkfanclub]

Really pleased this has been published at last and seems to be generating a very positive response.

It finally gives us something to present to the naysayers who keep parrotting that fan ownership doesnt work.

Being able to demonstrate that it does and show how it can become even stronger in the future was always going to be the best way to win this debate.

Hopefully it will have the required effect and we can win this vote and go about making our club the best version of itself we can.

Well done to all involved!

[Villageman]

28 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:

I think there is a need for the Society Board to be very careful and diplomatic throughout all of this; they're a very public face of a very public opposition to something the Exec Board is pushing.

I think resorting to calling out/naming and shaming wouldn't be in their best interests; it would just fuel the fire of those opposing them and give them more ammo to paint them as "daft wee lads and lasses who aren't business people".

Being professional and doing things in the manner which they're doing them demonstrates an incredible level of control and dignity. They're also going to stand up on Wednesday and take questions and listen to their members/fans; something the Exec Board aren't willing to. That speaks volumes to their character and belief in what they're presenting.

Edit: I think by all means we as fans/non-board members can call out the hypocrisy of certain ex-board members and others, but I think the current Board are handling themselves brilliantly.

Have I missed news of this ?.

[steelboy]

1 hour ago, StAndrew7 said:

"Strategic projects", man. Strategic. Projects.

I'm not going to talk to the prick on Twitter but can someone ask him just how much he intends to spend on AI marketing and branding in year one? He surely at least knows that. 

[steelman1991]

32 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:

I think there is a need for the Society Board to be very careful and diplomatic throughout all of this; they're a very public face of a very public opposition to something the Exec Board is pushing.

I think resorting to calling out/naming and shaming wouldn't be in their best interests; it would just fuel the fire of those opposing them and give them more ammo to paint them as "daft wee lads and lasses who aren't business people".

Being professional and doing things in the manner which they're doing them demonstrates an incredible level of control and dignity. They're also going to stand up on Wednesday and take questions and listen to their members/fans; something the Exec Board aren't willing to. That speaks volumes to their character and belief in what they're presenting.

Edit: I think by all means we as fans/non-board members can call out the hypocrisy of certain ex-board members and others, but I think the current Board are handling themselves brilliantly.

Sometimes I let my heart rule my head 😀 Left to me there would have been a public flogging at Motherwell Cross by now.

[StAndrew7]

8 minutes ago, Villageman said:

Have I missed news of this ?.

It's on their Twitter feed replying to the post of The Plan (although not in the e-mail that I can see):

https://x.com/TheWellSociety/status/1807841972746436872

6:30pm - 8:30pm in the Centenary Suite on Wednesday.

[Cameron_Mcd]

1 minute ago, steelboy said:

I'm going to talk to the prick on Twitter but can someone ask him just how much he intends to spend on AI marketing and branding in year one? He surely at least knows that. 

Nah mate. It's all #vibes

[steelman1991]

17 minutes ago, santheman said:

I'm currently having an online spat with someone who still thinks EBs offer should be accepted.

His reasoning is "At least he's put a figure on his investment all the WS have given us is a load of things theyre hoping will happen"

I'm about ready to punch my screen in.

Basically he just doesn't want to put any more of his readies into the club, therefore happy for someone else to - irrespective of the outcome. At least 2 folk that I know think that way.

[David]

25 minutes ago, santheman said:

I'm currently having an online spat with someone who still thinks EBs offer should be accepted.

His reasoning is "At least he's put a figure on his investment all the WS have given us is a load of things theyre hoping will happen"

I'm about ready to punch my screen in.

For the record, while the proposal document outlines how the Society intends to raise funds through various revenue channels, it is not as detailed as a business plan, simply because such detail is not typically included in a proposal. Essentially, it is a presentation that charts the way forward.

Key performance indicators (KPIs) and projected return on investment (ROI) for the avenues mentioned by the Society are already established and will be shared in due course. I am confident that these avenues will generate more revenue annually than what Wild Sheep Sports is offering, and without the need to relinquish almost 50% of the club or allow a very influential boardroom presence.

[wellfan]

It’s pretty telling that the Club haven’t used their social media channels to promote the Well Society’s plan today. They were happy to push the Barmack offer on their socials. McMahon really is a dictator. However, to give some acknowledgement, the Club have published it on their website, although it’s now buried beneath the new signing news.

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/well-society/

[joewarkfanclub]

48 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

Basically he just doesn't want to put any more of his readies into the club, therefore happy for someone else to - irrespective of the outcome. At least 2 folk that I know think that way.

Surely you can just stop your direct debit if thats the way you feel?

No need to press the nuclear button and f#ck it for everyone else!

[joewarkfanclub]

39 minutes ago, David said:

For the record, while the proposal document outlines how the Society intends to raise funds through various revenue channels, it is not as detailed as a business plan, simply because such detail is not typically included in a proposal. Essentially, it is a presentation that charts the way forward.

Key performance indicators (KPIs) and projected return on investment (ROI) for the avenues mentioned by the Society are already established and will be shared in due course. I am confident that these avenues will generate more revenue annually than what Wild Sheep Sports is offering, and without the need to relinquish almost 50% of the club or allow a very influential boardroom presence.

Thats useful info David.

Will help us argue against the inevitible pushback.

[StAndrew7]

50 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

Basically he just doesn't want to put any more of his readies into the club, therefore happy for someone else to - irrespective of the outcome. At least 2 folk that I know think that way.

Also, he's not. He's putting the money into the Society, who in turn give it to the Club as required.

And aye. Just stop your DD then.

[steelman1991]

1 minute ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Surely you can just stop your direct debit if thats the way you feel?

No need to press the nuclear button and f#ck it for everyone else!

Why would I do that? The comment you posted on wasn't about me but someone santheman was having a "spat" with on facebook.

[StAndrew7]

3 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

Why would I do that? The comment you posted on wasn't about me but someone santheman was having a "spat" with on facebook.

I think he was just making a general comment about people that are saying that, not you directly (as was I). 👍

[steelman1991]

Just now, StAndrew7 said:

Also, he's not. He's putting the money into the Society, who in turn give it to the Club as required.

And aye. Just stop your DD then.

I wasn't referring to myself though - trying to explain why maybe the guy who santheman was having a spat with on facebook might be rationalising his thought pattern. As I said I know of at least 2 folk who feel that the club should be run along the lines of 50 years ago when we had a majority shareholder..

[joewarkfanclub]

5 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

Why would I do that? The comment you posted on wasn't about me but someone santheman was having a "spat" with on facebook.

StAndrew 7 is correct. Just clumsy diction. Apologies.

[steelman1991]

Just now, joewarkfanclub said:

StAndrew 7 is correct. Just clumsy diction. Apologies.

No need - the whole subject is emotive. I didn't take time to really comprehend the intention.

[joewarkfanclub]

1 minute ago, steelman1991 said:

No need - the whole subject is emotive. I didn't take time to really comprehend the intention.

No issues.

We all want whats best for the club.

Its actually quite refreshing that there is so much agreement on here and P&B surrounding the investment proposal.

We need to take the message beyond these boards though if we want to secure fan ownership of the club for the future.

[StAndrew7]

2 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

No issues.

We all want whats best for the club.

Its actually quite refreshing that there is so much agreement on here and P&B surrounding the investment proposal.

We need to take the message beyond these boards though if we want to secure fan ownership of the club for the future.

Already doing this on Facebook and Twitter.

Apparently this is all "just spin to move support away from the investment which is the real money". 🤦‍♂️

Interestingly, when I've replied to people to challenge them or provide a slightly more realistic take... there hasn't been a response.

[David]

I've seen a few people on social media claim that they can still vote for Erik's proposal, and that he would be able to work hand in hand with the Society to implement their plan. A "win/win" for all concerned.

It should be pointed out that this isn't the case. 

Under Erik's proposal the majority of the Society plan comes undone. it would be unworkable.

[weeyin]

19 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:

Interestingly, when I've replied to people to challenge them or provide a slightly more realistic take... there hasn't been a response.

There is some good scientific evidence that when you challenge (with evidence) someone on a strongly held belief - it actually causes them to strengthen that belief.

That's one reason that trying to debate things on social media quickly deteriorates into shouting.