The Well Society - How Are They Doing?

[stv]

Not for one minute suggesting grizzlyg would share any old emails online but old jokes is different matter .😱

I would think they should release more general emails "in reply to points raised by members emails" . This month kind of thing. 

Then they can chose words as carefully as they like and they would be available to all members and online without worry .  But they can't pick n chose who they reply personally to tho , even if they come from regulars on a forum . It's reply to every email or do general release ones regularly.  Although more emails released more arguments and disagreement , I fear .

[grizzlyg]

7 minutes ago, stv said:

Not for one minute suggesting grizzlyg would share any old emails online but old jokes is different matter .😱

I would think they should release more general emails "in reply to points raised by members emails" . This month kind of thing. 

Then they can chose words as carefully as they like and they would be available to all members and online without worry .  But they can't pick n chose who they reply personally to tho , even if they come from regulars on a forum . It's reply to every email or do general release ones regularly.  Although more emails released more arguments and disagreement , I fear .

I am working on new material........watch this space 🤣🤣

Ps. Grizzly given written warning by admin 🤣🤣

[joewarkfanclub]

7 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

As you know Dave im not a WS member and never will be, as ive always maintained that the club is too small for true fan ownership, so i get the impression that the WS reps are quite happy to take the recognition of a seat on the board etc, but on a sit quietly and say nothing basis.

For me they are only informed about. What the club board wants them to know and the wont raise their heads above the parapet to raise the real issues, ie fan conduct, inadequate seating, ridiculous kick off times etc.

The fans are contributing significant amounts of cash into what is effectively a rainy day fund for the board but get no significant information or consultation on any major desicion affecting the club in return.

True fan ownership would see the WS memers as individual shareholders in their own right and collectively the major shareholder, so change is required.

Not having a go at you directly SP, but there are one or two innacuracies here that need addressed because they are common misconceptions.

The Well Society Board know everything that happens at Executive Board level as we have 2 Society Board members ON the Executive Board who represent all Society Members and feed back to the Society Board.

The Executive Board do NOT get access to the rainy day fund whenever they feel like it. They have to apply to the Well Society Board and request funds for a specific purpose, which if granted is in the form of a loan.

Ive no idea how much a Motherwell FC share costs. But the whole purpose of the Well Society was to pool resources in order to secure majority shareholding of the club so the club could not be sold out from underneath us. It effectively safeguards our continued existence. This just wouldnt be possible with individual shareholding as it would be impossible to corale individual shareholders into any form of collective unity (just look at this place at times).

Re major decision making, I agree to an extent. Ive been quite vocal about plans for the new training ground / stadium feasibility study, and I think more information on this should have been communicated, but in respect of who is driving the club, I would suggest the Society Board drive the Executive Board more than the other way around. You only need to look at the appointment of CEO and Chairman for evidence of that. You might even argue tge lines have been blurred too much the other way with not enough seperation between the two boards to protect all parties.

I do think there is much room for improvement however, and taking a stronger position on fan behaviour shouldnt be too much of a difficulty.

I do welcome the consultation on Active Investment, which is another step in moving the Society away from being a rainy day fund and more like the "owner" of the football club it actually is.

[Kmcalpin]

29 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

The Well Society Board know everything that happens at Executive Board level as we have 2 Society Board members ON the Executive Board who represent all Society Members...

I know this is an agreed governance issue Joe, but assuming that the club Board has 5 members, including 2 employees, are we saying that Society reps are outnumbered 3:2?

[Kmcalpin]

1 hour ago, stv said:

I would think they should release more general emails "in reply to points raised by members emails" . This month kind of thing. 

Yes that would work. If 6 members, for example,   submitted very similar comments, then a general reply would suffice. At the very least those 6 members could be sure that their concerns had been addressed. 

[SteelmaninOZ]

2 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

I am working on new material........watch this space 🤣🤣

Ps. Grizzly given written warning by admin 🤣🤣

So you got your reply then 😇