joewarkfanclub Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Agree turnout is very disappointing. Reasons need investigated so we can at least try to drive up engagemement. Unfortunately rules and regulations are not very "sexy" to your average punter, but I would have hoped for higher numbers than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Loads of people are happy to chuck a fiver/tenner at them a month and not give a fuck about the minor operations they know nothing about. The 85% who didn't vote are the folk who will complain at the first opportunity. Motherwell fans aren’t exactly the easiest crowd to get on board with stuff. There are a select few who are seen every where, a few locals and that's about it. It now seems a hassle for some to read and click a few buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 1 Author Report Share Posted July 1 29 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: Loads of people are happy to chuck a fiver/tenner at them a month and not give a fuck about the minor operations they know nothing about....... Motherwell fans aren’t exactly the easiest crowd to get on board with stuff. There are a select few who are seen every where, a few locals and that's about it. It now seems a hassle for some to read and click a few buttons. I agree 100% with your first statement. Thats just the way it is in many organisations and the Society is no different. In town planning consultations for example response rates of 1-2% are commonplace, maybe even the norm until the shit hits the fan and bulldozers threaten to appear next door. Some truth in your second statement. Undoubtedly online information overload is a factor. The Society Board though cannot and will not accept your line of thought. It won't get anywhere by blaming the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Ive never bought into the feeling that Motherwell fans are any more indifferent or indeed harder to please than any other fans. We just notice it more because we are them and they are us. Most supports with a broad demographic will produce similar percentages when asked to make decisions on various subjects. Its like politics. Nobody really gives a f#ck about local elections cause its roads, bins etc. When it comes to the big decisions more people tend to sit up and take notice. Still a piss poor return though....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 I imagine most financial contributors to the Society only want to support the club and have no interest in the day-to-day running. I don't have a problem with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villageman Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 It was also said at the meeting that advisory groups consider a 30% response to any voting opportunity good. Maybe it's the old argumentative codger in me that believes a vote should always be used. Some of the MPs and MSPs ruining (not a mistype) are elected with 30% or less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 Appreciate that this is a wee bit late, but I was looking for some info about old roof repairs and stumbled across some original WS stuff. The original lowest membership was £300, as previously pointed out. However, there was an additional annual renewal fee. Of £50. I have a renewal certificate. After this came the change to monthly contributions. My very hazy recollection of this is that it was mandatory to contribute in order to retain membership. As other people have alluded, things were pretty fluid in the first couple of years, so I could well be wrong about that, but a fiver a month is pretty close to fifty quid annually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 full adult membership got you one share in the society, each and every member would only ever have one share, it was the very essence of the sales pitch to own a share. (To then own the club) Any ongoing fees were for the maintenance of benefits,, (rarely delivered and often changed as club realised they carried the cost of benefits which was then changed) even the initial switch to monthly standing order deposits was to allow payment towards a full adult membership . As the Society board were given targets by the then club board to grow membership to viable numbers.. many opted away from the benefits (which have been vaguely delivered since and to date) to use monthlies to join up family members etc to grow membership numbers. If I had the energy I’d contest the recent board’s interpretation that the switch to monthlies years back didn’t entitle adult members life ownership of their single society share when meeting the adult membership fee, but tbh they’ve pitched their work and got their votes. Good luck to them It’ll be interesting to see the actual impact of the policy , on published membership numbers going forward when they roll out the cancellations 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 2 hours ago, Brazilian said: full adult membership got you one share in the society, each and every member would only ever have one share, it was the very essence of the sales pitch to own a share. (To then own the club) Any ongoing fees were for the maintenance of benefits,, (rarely delivered and often changed as club realised they carried the cost of benefits which was then changed) even the initial switch to monthly standing order deposits was to allow payment towards a full adult membership . As the Society board were given targets by the then club board to grow membership to viable numbers.. many opted away from the benefits (which have been vaguely delivered since and to date) to use monthlies to join up family members etc to grow membership numbers. If I had the energy I’d contest the recent board’s interpretation that the switch to monthlies years back didn’t entitle adult members life ownership of their single society share when meeting the adult membership fee, but tbh they’ve pitched their work and got their votes. Good luck to them It’ll be interesting to see the actual impact of the policy , on published membership numbers going forward when they roll out the cancellations Good post Iain. Like you, I do wonder what the impact of the new proposal on membership numbers will be, when cancellations are applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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