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https://x.com/livifcofficial/status/1795515598274744534?s=46&t=Yi0H3LakxlXxc5QEsuI9Ug According to Livingston we host them at Fir Park in a freindly on 6th July in a Freindly

Just like all the other teams in the league outside the old firm. Even Paul Daniels couldn’t pull that one off . Any names spring to mind , within our budget.

I honestly don't see the point in giving squad players who aren't ever going to be first 11 a new contract. I'd prefer to have youngsters as a back up and go and recruit some decent players. Personally I'd have been more brutal and let the likes of S'OD, Mugabi and Ox go. Although easier said than done now is the time to recruit a very good goal keeper, central defenders and quality defensive midfielder.

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One reason he probably wasn't dropped is that the manager didn't seem to have much faith in the backup keeper. Kelly's role as captain undoubtedly played a significant part, as it should have, but it doesn't appear that Oxborough made the decision difficult for the manager. Let's be honest, if Kettlewell had rated Oxborough, he would have been given more opportunities during the cup. The fact that he played two games, conceded three goals in the first, and was essentially sidelined for the rest of the season before we got into August says a lot. I'm hoping Oxborough has re-signed to be the backup, although I'd be surprised if that's the case, as he could likely secure a backup role elsewhere under freedom of contract. The fact that he signed up so quickly suggests he's received some assurances for the coming season, which is concerning. It indicates a significant downgrade from Kelly and a cheaper option. It's also worth noting that Oxborough isn't a young prospect. At 25 years old, he has played around 51 games in his entire career. For comparison, he's only three years younger than Kelly, but Kelly has played 275 games.

Tierney is on the players under contract list, which I think runs until the end of next season. Obika’s absence from any of the lists remains a mystery, perhaps because he's triggered an extension and the club are too embarrassed to admit yet another fuck up. Although the MFC website is about as accurate as a drunk man aiming his piss into the bog, I think Miller is the only player with a contract beyond 2025.

Saw the statement about player releases and contracts and have a couple of questions. Obika and Tierney weren't mentioned as either being released or offered new contracts. I believe they were both contracted up to this summer. I'd assume they are gone then but it wasn't categorically stated. Also, is it correct that we don't have a single recognised first team player contracted beyond 2025?

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Not quite - but it's that extra 10% (or whatever) that can make the difference in performances. Premiership teams have different training schedules and requirements from lower league teams, especially the part time ones. They also tend to have a higher turnover of players, so when the Cup kicks off they might have players with little or no pre-season behind them. And there's players who have been on international duty that take their break late and are two or three weeks behind the rest of the team. And the fact we start with a dozen new players that the manager needs to test out in different formations and partnerships means it can take a few extra weeks to settle in. If it was just us, then you could argue we are doing it wrong, but you see the same issue across all the Premiership teams at this point in the competition.

I would say that the lower league teams tend to have a more settled squad who know each other and have a set style of play and formation whereas we are usually blooding new players and trying out different things so can look a bit disjointed in games. Can't say I've noticed much difference in general fitness levels in the games I've seen tbh. That's my theory anyway.

Thing that always bothers me about the League Cup groups is whn we get beat or look shagged, people say 'ooooh it's early in the season, they're not ready yet' Do the lower division opposition not play to the same season and close season as us ?

Ayr, Accies, Dumbarton, Buckie

I love the group stage of the league cup, genuinely excited to see where we’ll be playing. Always a good day out to some unfamiliar grounds. The football’s usually pretty terrible though, to be fair.

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My only prediction is that more than half of the starting line-up in game 1 of the group stage will not be in the starting line-up for game 1 of the league.

Queens Park, Cove rangers, Edinburgh city, and Clyde would be the ideal draw for me.

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Do you think it was "very interesting" 😄

Dont want to start a tit for tat, but you gave multiple reasons at the time why Kelly wouldnt and shouldnt be dropped for Oxborough last season. Are you admitting now he should have been given a chance?

If you look at our squad, we desperately need to sign a goalkeeper, a centre half and a few wingbacks. We've only got 2 senior strikers at the club, one of which hasn't played a combined 90 minutes in his time at the club. If we get Nicholson and Slattery signed up we shouldn't be too far away from having a good enough midfield (that is, of course, a big if) I stand by my original point that out of the issues we have with our current squad the midfield is probably the least urgent of them.

I'd say that midfield is an area we badly need to bolster. In addition to replacing Spittal we also require a physical defensive type to shield the defence. The absence of just such a player was one of the reasons we conceded so many last season.

Agree he’s not one I’d be looking at but disagree that midfield doesn’t need added to. With Spittal away we need to replace him. Halliday, I think could do us a turn but we need to strengthen around him with players who can cover his shortcomings.

No chance, not a premiership player. He looked decent enough for Raith in the championship and should be left in the championship. 30 years old, never been good enough for the premiership, never will be good enough for it Besides the point but midfield is probably the position we least need to add to at the moment.

Why should we be after him?

If he a free transfer would be Motherwell should be seeing if we can get him