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I know I've asked a few times but does 4th get euro spot, no matter who wins cup?

I think we've been overhyped and that has maybe got to us. Folk need to remain grounded. Yes, we are probably the best footballing team in the league, but that alone doesn't win you games. There are 3 possibly 4 better teams than us in the league and we shouldn't forget that. However we'll finish in 5th at worst and thats a tremendous achievement. We've built a good foundation from which to strengthen the squad for next season and turn it into a team capable of winning a cup.

I’d agree, I’ve not seen too much in him yet but I do think we need to mix it up a little. I’d move Maswanhise wide and have him play off the big man. As much as I love wee Said I think he’s been off it for a few weeks, he might have a stronger impact coming on as sub. certainly nothing to get worked up about, the football is still good to watch and there’s 8 great games left to the season. Let’s face it, even the happiest of clappers couldn’t have predicted we’d be in this position when we played Twente in pre season.

I am just disappointed as this was our only chance to win league. Old firm and hearts were for the taking but maybe some of the hype been OTT. some players believing their own hype and as much as I think Askou is a legend, there is a time and place for possession football. That's both times at parkheid we have been ahead then gifted goals. Next week we need a massive crowd. Beat Hibs and we are 9pts clear with much better goal difference. That is now the focus

Good post which mirrors my own view. We have weaknesses in the team which are now costing us, but in fairness, we are very much work in progress and way ahead of where many of us thought we'd be. Have the wheels come off? Maybe, but we'll know for sure next Saturday evening. Are we good enough to retain 4th spot? We do seem to have an issue with players have off days in big games. Thats now 3 recent defeats losing 7 goals in the process and scoring 2. Looking on the bright side, its been a good day results wise as Falkirk and Hibs only managed to claw back one point on us. I didn't expect that. Their results were always going to be more important to us than our own. What did disappoint me was the red card. That was something I was hoping to avoid like the plague today, but I was being a tad optimistic. I haven't seen the penalty incident so can't comment on the specifics. With no back up left back, it'll cause us issues next week No more Tom Sparrow at full back though..please. I never expected to take anything from today, so in that respect the defeat is neither here nor there.

Don’t actually think Celtic are a better team than us & don’t think they hurt us massively today either Argument to be made that teams are maybe starting to figure us out a bit because we don’t mix it up at all starting to lose the ball more in dangerous areas I’d like to see the big man get a start up front soon but we’d need actually play his strengths & give teams something different to think about

Honestly think perspective is being lost by some. We're well on track to be 4th. We got beat today by a better team who played well and have the depth, strength, quality of players to hurt us and they did. It's not because we were poor , or have poor players or have a ref who caused it. Today we came off second best, albeit still competed well with them until the penalty. I do wonder if all the hype and suggestion of winning the league has skewed many perspectives. I don't agree that a bubble has burst - we're too many games into the season to refer to bubbles/lucky streaks. We're a damn good team and on course to be 4th.

Don’t have any arguments with that today. I thought we did fine and played really good stuff at times and infact i felt we were having the upper hand at the time of the penalty/sending off. After that it was damage management. Nothing to get too disheartened about, the next 2 home games are the more crucial ones. We need to stay in 4th and try and cause a bit of mayhem in the top 6.

Too many of our strongest players just weren’t on their game. You talk about luck and yes you need that in games like these but you also need to be at your best and we certainly weren’t from what I saw. And when you take the lead in the 32nd minute of the first half you need to be able to see it out until half time. We couldn’t even hold out for ten minitues. It wasn’t a disaster today and it wasn’t the worst performance we could have put in but we can’t afford to have players like Maswanhise posted missing and Said offering nothing.

Totally agree with the comments. I think JT is believing his own hype to much. I think the manager will make a few changes for next week. Good to see another Prestwick Well fan on the forum! 🙂

Why would be good enough? They spend much more than us, you need luck and a strong ref...hibs drew so it could've been a lot worse.We played really well today, maybe too open but that's yhe type of players we have

fair play to anybody that spends money going to that shit hole because you know what you’re getting 100% agree we’re not getting a penalty for that & the reds just nonsense crying out for a physicality up front to get us up the park in the 2nd half subs definitely needed before the penalty, at 1 point just ran past longelo to block a cross No doubt sparrows fault for the 1st so not sure where the debate is there big week next week

Red Card that killed the game for us even going behind with the penalty we would have still well been in it. Dont like to call out players but when Sparrow is off it it not a word in the dictionary that can describe how bad he is today was one of those days.

Alot of people both inside and more so outside of our support have gotten way too carried away about us this season. Yes we have been excellent and have turned in some great performances resulting in some big wins. Celtic at home being the main one, likewise Hibs at Fir Park and fairly comfortably took care of a good few of the bottom six sides especially at home. But as I said earlier we have failed to record a single win away against any of the current top six and have failed to beat either Rangers or Hearts despite all the credit (or “billing and coo-ing as Tam Cowan put it) over our performances in those games. We have also failed miserably in two massive yet on paper very winnable cup ties. I described us as being “Fur coat and no knickers” earlier in the season and I stand by that.

I would be suprised if we dont bring in a few defenders in the summer.

I thought Celtic had first 15 mins of second half and then we started to control the ball more but then PK and red killed us. We didn’t do well at the corner, Ward missed the ball and Longello was caught on wrong side of Maeda.

Our record against top 6 not that impressive. It's against bottom 6 we have built up the points. Need to ge5 back on track

Played well in the 1st half, but didn’t really deserve anything from that 2nd half performance. Although how different it could have been if the 2 big refereeing decisions had gone our way (never going to happen in Glasgow) Great that Hibs only gained a point on us though.

We will just have to disagree

That's what I'm thinking Mcghee is here next season so needs to be given a run to see if he's going to be a potential first choice. I'd play Welsh until we secure 4th as he is comfortably our best CB.

Said did not cause that goal. Sparrow has to clear the ball down the line. 2nd goal is tragic from Longelo but why is he even picking up Maeda in the first place. 3rd goal is fresh out of Sunday league literally a punt down the park and he's clean through. Win the next 2 games and we're in a decent position to come 4th. Would probably leave us needing maybe 4 points from the other 6 games.

Maybe now we can start looking at the fact that O'Donnell will be 34 next season, McGinn will be 36 and Welsh will be somewhere else earning much more money.

Irrespective of the penalty we have been poor in the 2nd half. Defence overall today has struggled and no threat up front. Like first game we shot ourselves in the foot conceeding a soft goal and never recovered. Never a disgrace to lose in Glasgow given the resources they have and officials to help out when needed. Said, Longelo and Sparrow way to slack with ball and poor defensively. JT was non existent. So thats four players down during game. Struggle to win when thats happening.

Oh well is what it is win the next 2 games and get 4th wrapped up and start building for next season.

On a plus point Hibs failed to beat Livingston at home and drew 0-0 so very much still advantage us in the race for 4th. Next week at home against them is absolutely massive, we need to beat them to increase our lead and also to get back on track otherwise we could suddenly find ourselves in a bit of a rut after such a good run.