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We will just need to agree to disagree, I think it does, preparation for a new season doesn't just start in June. By the time we get someone in the door ts likely to be mid June. He will know fuck all about the squad so he inherited so has limited time to assess the options before he may need to head into the transfer market and the season starts in July. Our only saving grace is Dundee and Kilmarnock are in the same position.

You would imagine the club would sound out a name from the previous shortlist. That will depend on availability though. After the Wimmer appointment and with a bit of compo received albeit probably minimal, I trust the club to get the right man in.

Club took us all by surprise last time and done a lot of research. Hopefully will take their time again. I don't think Wimmer appointment was a mistake and I genuinely don't think he would have taken job if he knew a few months down line this would have happened.

It is a real shame to hear that Wimmer has gone. I was looking forward with some optimism to the new season for the first time in what feels like many years. It is both a surprise and not. You only have to look back six weeks ago on this thread to see us debate this very possibly. The conversation started at the time after a defeat (was it Aberdeen?) when he had that familiar thousand yard stare of Motherwell managers past as if it had finally dawned on him how limited the squad was in it's potential. My guess is that he did not really know what he was walking into with Scottish football (or at least a club with Motherwell's financial limitations) and that he started considering his exit around that time. My other wild unsubstantiated hunch ( that is what football forums are for) is that he had a half hearted attempt to promote himself for the Hearts manager just before we played them. 'Great club, great stadium, great fans' made him sound like MJC had written his script in the pre-match interview before the Hearts game. The only thing missing was to predict a Motherwell defeat so it was not an MJC prepared presser. The real reason for his departure will probably be a blend of personal and professional reasons. Like every Motherwell manager that has gone before him over the last 30 years he has contributed significantly to Motherwell's proud Premier League status. He left us in a better position than when he arrived. So thank you MW. Seemed like a really decent guy and I wish him all the best for the future.

Leaving in mid May isnt leaving us in the lurch. If he left in July then we would be fucked

Staff come and go at our football club. Some sooner than we would have liked. We go on as always. Modern football is a farce.

Yes. Michael Wimmer will have identified the number and types of player required, and maybe even specific individuals. That was his domain. He will then have passed that information to Nick Daws and tasked him with researching that requirement and progressing it up to a point. This will have been going on a few months. In short, Nick Daws, and maybe others at the club, will have a good handle on what has been going on and on recruitment planning. I'd expect us to appoint a new manager in the next 3 weeks or so and before pre season and before the window opens. The new man will already have an idea of how we've played and our shortcomings i.e. defensive frailties, powder puff attack and injuries. He'll then have to apply his own preferences and check that against Nick Daw's advice on what has been done. No players can be signed until July although some may have signed PCAs. I very much doubt that any new manager will completely rip up what has already been planned for months, although he may adjust it. My last word on Michael Wimmer. He did seem a decent sort of guy. I'm unsure from the official press statement however, whether Regensburg asked permission to speak to him. It only says that he informed us, after the final game, last Sunday, that he would taking up the post in Germany. If the club did know about this before Sunday then you'd expect our recruitment process to have begun before yesterday.

Yeah, I'd agree with this, although I'll also contradict myself and say I liked the 'Jester', 'Ajax' and 'Sash' strips. My gripe is when they dont use the badge and use just the typeface. I love our club crest - A thing of beauty. Anyway, I'd love us to get something closer to the 86-87 strip:

I don't agree with this. Surely, the manager will dictate the type of players that are needed and will have to become familiar with the squad before any instructions are passed to the recruitment team. Swimmer said during a few interviews that he had to compromise his approach because the players at his disposal couldn't execute his style of football. Recruiting before the new manager is in place and understands the abilities of the squad would be a serious error. Recruitment will now have to be late in the window.

think that wad Ryan Lowe who's now with Wigan. Modern day football is bonkers. The every season year change of strip now outlasts many managers - can't be good for any business. I'm ok with slow progress, I liked the style of football Wimmer was aiming for, would like the next manager to bring the same philosophy and be given time to move us forward/have the desire to stay for a few years.

I'm with you on that. I've never been one to get worked up over strip details or trims but I much prefer our traditional top of amber with a claret band.

Absolutely and why we insist on buggering about with our home kit and colours baffles me. You don’t see Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs or Dundee Utd straying from their core home kits like we do with last seasons or the horrific ‘throwback’ effort from a few years ago.

I liked the sound of the former Preston manager who was in the running last time. Not sure if he is still available, or if indeed he would still be interested.

I'm not sure it's an age thing I wreckon I'm one of the younger posters on here at 30. But I just like our traditional kit and wish we took a bit more pride in it.

I meant amber top claret hoop

Saw him in The Rex this evening , just a coincidence ?

Until Christmas ,then it's a new batch from the crackers.🤪

Bit harsh , if I am honest but each to their own opinion

Bit harsh , if I am honest but each to their own opinion

No reason now why the release list shouldn't be published. Her Wimmer himself said, before last weekend, that he had a clear idea as to who he wanted to retain. Given timescales no reason now why that list can't be made public. That said, there may be one or two individual negotiations still continuing.

I hear you Yoshi and no doubt my thinking is skewed by a bias of Campbell, I loved the effort the lad put in over the years. And fair play to Halliday for playing every game at 33. Im sort of expecting him to step back a little next year and play less game but who knows.

I couldn't give two fucks about him, he's an ex manager whose uproven whether he was any good in Scotland and has left us in the lurch.

Genuinely very sorry to see Michael Wimmer leave. I believe his appointment was a bold and positive move by the club and there were signs that it may have worked out well for us. I liked the way that he seemed to want us to play and he came across as a very decent man. The circumstances of his departure have been explained to us and seem both reasonable and understandable. As such, I can only wish MW all the best for the future, especially with any family issues, and thank him for his efforts in keeping us in the top division.

I've always harboured hope that Craggs would want it but he's sensibly opted for pundit route - much easier life I imagine. For me there is a watch out re another Wimmer esk appt. By that I mean a manager who lives away from his family, If he moved to UK and his family didn't, well how was that ever going to work ?(forgive my hindsight goggles) I'm hoping there was a good second choice a few months ago then they may still be available. For the record I think we've proven over the long term that we don't appoint the obvious failed Scottish managers.

Jürgen Klopp please.