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Would be nice if we could score Scotland's first European competition goal tonight.....

I really don’t get why anyone defaults to think that if we do move we’ll endeavour to build the single worst thing we can devoid of any merit or atmosphere. I’ve only ever see St Mirren but our sloppy seconds than the other way round. I think to convince people it’s more about human nature. I’m often drawn to something I studied while at uni. The Golden Gate Bridge was initially opposed be literally everyone. Today it’s inconceivable to imagine San Francisco without it and it’s universally loved as a cultural icon. Groups: U.S. War Department Feared the bridge would obstruct military operations or, if destroyed in war, block the entrance to San Francisco Bay. Shipping companies Thought it would interfere with navigation and large ships entering the harbour. Southern Pacific / Golden Gate Ferries Didn’t want to lose their profitable ferry monopoly. Sierra Club and conservationists Argued it would scar the natural landscape and damage the environment. Taxpayer groups Believed it was far too expensive and financially reckless, especially during the Depression. Board of Supervisors and civic leaders Worried about debt, toll revenue and political risk. Engineers Claimed it couldn’t survive the currents, winds and fog. Strauss’ original design was mocked as an “upside-down rat trap.” Residents and preservationists Felt it would ruin the beauty and character of the Golden Gate and Marin Headlands. More detail here: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/goldengate-opposition

I can see Just going further than Swansea. The only place I see Watt going, though, is back to Scotland once the Turks either stop paying his wages or decide to tear up his contract.

We paid a fee for Just and he's actually a good player. We didn't pay a fee for Theo Bair, he wasn't a good player and we still sold him for a couple of million inside 12 months. So if flipping players makes the best ever signing Theo Bair is king. In all seriousness, of course, Davie Cooper is our greatest signing in the modern era. He revolutionised the club and its history.

You’ve already got it. They’re being vindictive because we had the sense to call a spade a spade and point out their incompetence and apparent corruption.

I’d say you have to judge our greatest signings in the context of each generation, and the financial and playing landscape at the time. If you do that, I think you can easily make a case for both Cooper and Just being on an exclusive list. But then what are the criteria? Greatest signing in terms of financial return, or what they delivered on the pitch in helping us win something or otherwise? That’s why I don’t think there’s one definitive answer. There are probably a few names that belong on the list.

Aye probably said it better than I could

The constraints of the current Fir Park site are plain to see. But with the principle of development for a football stadium already established there, nobody will ever convince me there isn’t a viable proposal that responds to those constraints in a creative yet pragmatic way. Whether that’s a complete demolition and redevelopment or a phased approach of continually replacing and upgrading the stadium bit by bit, I’d take either of those over relocating to an identikit plastic shithole on a soulless brownfield site on the edge of town. Every realistic option at Fir Park has to be exhausted, and sensible compromises made where necessary, before we consider something as drastic as leaving our home for Ravenscraig.

Everyone is funnelled into a 4m wide gate to leave. Theres no scope for any ancillary sales or expansion. The space under us can’t be used. It is limited for disabled access and its roof will need replaced soon. Due to the curve of Knowetop Avenue it cuts the corner off the Cooper (it’s stepped in) the. If massive wall has to be maintained, we looked to demolish it 15 years ago and told no. WS looking at funding a lift. The Cooper bar is a particularly uninspiring space. The POD has a very narrow footprint, the width of the centenary interrupted by columns define it. Upstairs rooms such as the 91 suite can effectively fit 12 chairs abreast with an access corridor down the middle. boardroom Even smaller. above the sponsors lounge is now taken over by the media team I understand. None of these facilities are enough or fitting for a club looking to close its operational funding gap.

Come in no.4.........yer times up!! 🤣

The school playground doesn't stop the east stand from functioning Not sure what the cooper issue is? And as for the main stand, I dont think it needs to run full length for it to allow us to rebuild it

The tag is the best ever signing though...to flip him for ridiculous money in a calendar year must be up there regardless of what he actually achieved on the pitch

I don't have any better suggestions, but regardless of his ability and financial value, I'm not sure anyone who only played for one season in which we ultimately didn't really come close to winning anything could really justify the "best ever" tag.

Davie Cooper is the most obvious one. Apart from him Tommy Coyne has got to be up there with our best. He was in his 30s when he signed and went on to be one of our top players of the 90s. I’d also give a shout to Michael Higdon. He was that annoying journeyman who always seemed to pop up with a goal against us for Falkirk or St.Mirren but when he came here he became a proper No.9 and we got the best out of him.

Where did the chat of Charles-Cook being injured come from? Haven't heard anything about that...

Bobby Graham. EDIT: to elaborate, he was a strong performer in an good Liverpool side that included Ian St John, Roger Hunt and later Keegan and Toshack. He almost certainly only signed for us beause Ian St John was the manger, and as well as being an excellent player himself, he struck up a great partnership with Willie Pettigrew. He spoiled me as a young fan, as I thought every striker that played for Motherwell would be as good as those 2.

A school playground, a street that cuts off the coroner of the Cooper and a couple of houses that ensure the Main stand can never stretch the full length of the pitch while sitting on a residential street for me shows no amount of money can remedy the limitations of FP.

Its often said that pound-for-pound, Davie Cooper is our best ever signing, in how he helped build the reputation of the club, its playing style and how he participated in getting us the win in 1991. Does Justs signing eclipse that? Buying him for a nominal fee and punting him 12months later for lots of millions? Any other suggestions?

If there are genuinely viable options to ugrade Fir Park to a modern and sustainable stadium, that will always be my first choice. Sadly, I'm not convinced there is a viable option, so I'm on board with a new build.

I’ve still to buy it but I did sign up for account. holding out to see if Motherwell TV come thru at the last moment, otherwise I’ll fork out for it.

Cheers...bought it on your say-so🤣

What i am probably saying is that if we are going to spend a monumental amount (30 or 40million) on a new build, then Id prefer to spend a similar amount properly renovating the stadium we've played at for decades and generations. Maybe im a dinosaur, but I genuinely think that we can make Fir Park work for us if we invest in it properly

Hallelujah!!!!!!!!.....finally

There’s no reasonable justification for why they came down on Watt for basically saying what everyone else could see. The SFA and SPFL are incompetent and more or less at the behest of one particular club so any dissenting voices need to be silenced.

Is there any amount of money we could have in the bank and your be OK with a switch or is FP only regardless or anything else?