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I disagree and you have your opinion and I have mine. As ever it's what makes football greatest game in the world
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A well constructed and thought out post Joe. I agree. We're playing very entertaining football but our tendency to lose leads is not a one off but is is now a serious weakness, which must be addressed. I'm not sure we can do that though until January. I hope we do. If this unfortunate trend continues, our crowds will drop off significantly. That's a fact. As a respected poster wrote elsewhere we don't seem to know how to defend when on the backfoot. Maybe, that indicates a weakness in our system.
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There was no foul. He clearly gets his body between the Falkirk player and the ball. If anything, HE is the one that is fouled! McLean just shits it when VAR intervenes....
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Hard to call this week as most only performed well for 45 minutes. But the shining light first half was Ibrahim Said. He should have had his first goal for the club and it would have been a contender for goal of the season......
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Agree. Nothing wrong with it. Falkirk player appears to fall down but didn't see a clear foul. They are actively trying to disallowed goals. Ruining game. Referees and bar in this country is a joke.
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Just watched the highlights of today's game. I really cannot see what was wrong with Said's disallowed goal. IF it was a foul it was soft in the extreme and certainly not clear or obvious. Why did VAR get involved?
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The first half today was some of the best football I've ever seen at Fir Park in 50 years of attending. Said, Maswanhise & Longelo were unplayable at times. All abely supported by Watt, Fadinger & Just. I thought Hendry had a very good first half and put himself about. Looked much more like the player we thought we were signing and the 60 minutes today will have done him good. The VAR decision for Said's goal is a shocker. I felt heart sorry for the boy, as the joy he felt in getting his first goal for the club was evident for all to see. That said, we did get into the lead quickly thereafter and should have put the game to bed by half time. The fact we didnt is fast becoming our achilles heal and if we dont rectify it soon, the manager and players could come under real pressure. I really hope that doesnt happen, because some of the football we are playing is magnificent and its the most entertained I have felt at Fir Park in a long time. The second half drop off however, cant continue to happen. A lot of credit has to go to McGlynn for changing things at half time. They pressed us much higher and got some success from it, but we still contributed to our own downfall by failing to remain calm and play our game. Everything got very hectic and rushed, resulting in some very poor decisions. Very disappointed tonight in the result. But not in despair as there is still so much to like about what we do. The next 3 games do really feel like they might be season defining though......
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Sounds like same guy i was listening to in hunter stand
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I don't always agree with El Grew, but do so more often than not. On balance, I'm in agreement with his post. There is logic behind it. At the game and on leaving, I heard quite a few fans voicing the same opinion. Now, you may not agree with what he's written and what a significant number of others were saying and that's perfectly fine. I get where you're coming from. However, that doesn't make them funny people or their arguments ridiculous.
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I had a guy standing behind me today who talked the biggest load of shite I have ever heard at a motherwell game for a while. When hendry was down injured in the box in the first half he asked his mate who was down , was it the aussie or was it masswanhise . Not much later on he proceeded to shout at calum ward to fuck off back to east kilbride ya useless cunt . This dickhead went on spouting utter shite the whole game .
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Very frustrating and bit of a reality check as despite all the plaudits we are in 9th and 2pts off bottom place. First half outstanding but final ball terrible and it came back to bite us. We never turned up 2nd half and Falkirk obviously tweaked formation. Loving the new style and very much on JBA revolution but some fans need a grip. The guy standing at back of hunter stand almost having a coronary and screaming at everything, seriously mate, if you can't get behind team maybe just not come to the games
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Drove back to Ayrshire wondering what I had just witnessed over the 90 mins. First half was as good as I`ve seen. Second half brought back nightmares of previous recent era`s. No panic from me. I think our season will be full of ups and downs. Apologies if I`ve missed it, but why didn`t Stama start today?
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First things first, I’m fully on the JBA train and long may it continue. But I honestly can’t remember the last time I was as angry after a game. That second half was appalling. Forget VAR re-refereeing it and robbing Said of a great goal. Where do you even start? Koutroumbis was rotten, Hendry was blowing out his arse, and nothing was sticking for Just. It was glaringly obvious to me, and probably everyone else and their dug, except JBA, that they should’ve been hooked at half-time for SOD, Stama and Charles-Cook. It was clear Falkirk were going to come flying out the traps after the break, and they did. They battered us for ten minutes while we sat off them and waited to concede. Then I actually saw JBA telling the team to drop back. WTF? We’re haemorrhaging points left, right and centre, and it can’t continue. JBA was outfoxed by McGlynn, and it’s becoming ever clearer he’s got no plan B. The next two games before the semi-final are massive for him and the team.
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Need to get this fixed for the St Midden semi final. They will play like Falkirk did in the second half ,not letting us pass the ball around unchallenged, harassing us when we had the ball and getting aggressive. Except Saints will kick the shit out us as well. We just faded away. We look a good footballing team but not a tough team. The manager should have a plan when the other team plays like this but I'm sure he will learn from this. We were really good in the first half. Kudos to Saints manager for totally changing his game in second half to put us off ours. Onwards and upwards.
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These Motherwell games really helping me cut down on the alcohol on matchday. I only have a few beers if they win.
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Guy behind me was screaming "Get it up the park". We are controlling games by not doing that. Its execution and decision making that is the problem, not the way we are setting up. Ironically in the first half (and start of second) we were getting balls into the sort of positions where Ap Stam would have been. Being ultra harsh. The Ap Stam handball goal, he should have perhaps had the presence of mind to try and find a pass, rather than putting in the net, as everyone in the ground know it would get overturned for the goalscorer-handball rule. As I say, being very harsh, but you wonder if players are thinking of this now.
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Also fully expect Willie Collum to come out and say VAR should not be getting involved in Said's goal. It was nowhere near enough a material error for the ref to wave play on in the first instance and was the example of re-referring the game he was at pains to say shouldnt happen in his last VAR review. I mean a subjective 'foul' on the halfway line, where the Falkirk player was nowhere near (in control of) the ball anyway 🤷♂️
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Totally agree, that's why I said in my pre game predictions that this was an important game because I knew some fans are just waiting to declare "get this fancy football to fuck" and resort to the mind numbing shite of the last few years and sadly the defeat has brought some of that very reaction I was worried about.
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To Be fair to Askou, he can't do much about individual errors. Fadinger was ball watching and dropped off Arfield for the second. We were a yard slow to press/stop crosses. The heartening thing is that we are well in games and are getting up the park etc. There is noone that has particularly dominated us. You at least get the feeling that we could/should do something, whereas last year you couldn't see where a (chance at) goal was coming from at times.
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Thought Said was outstanding, particularly in the first half.
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Bloody hell. What a ridiculous take and unfortunately sums up social media fans. If anyone thinks we r failing it is only because we see how good we can be. All this talk of winning ugly etc only goes so far and you only have to look at last few years to see that and the eventuality. This team has potential and it is only that to do something we haven't seen in years. I am dismayed at response tonight. Some funny people about.
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Struggling to remember two contrasting half's in a game, probably 2-0 up HT at home to Patrick in the 90's and losing 3-2 . Gutting to take nothing, should have been at least 2 or 3 up in the first half, not seen Said's "goal" back yet. Was actually thinking we had a good chance if running up a score in the second half. Worrying how easily we were picked open after half time and how poorly we respond to the opposition stepping things up. Thought Ap Stam was unlucky with the hand ball, the way it came at him off Bain.
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First half an absolute joy to watch. The 2nd half the worst I’ve seen from us in the league this season. It’s a growing concern that we repeatedly don’t capitalise whilst on top and struggle to cope when momentum goes against us. For all the praise we have received for our play, we have assembled the most technically gifted squad we’ve had in years. Yet I can’t tell whether we’re more likely to win the cup or get relegated this season. Maybe it’ll be both.
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The gaffer said
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Without wishing to state the obvious or be trite but it’s high time the manager realised that playing nice football and cutting teams to shreds is all very well but the object of the game is to score goals and concede less than you score. It’s now 1 win in 8 league games and that’s just not good enough. When we struggled to win games under the previous incumbent there were calls for him to be sacked. I’m not for one minute saying that’s on the cards but the manager badly needs to start putting wins on the board as we have slipped into the danger zone, early as it is, but experience shows that teams who are down there by year-end, usually get relegated.