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It definitely blocks passage to seats

"Well will also need to stump up another €4000 penalty for blocking passageways at Fir Park in the second qualifying round win over HB Torshavn." Daily record How much will we get fined if there are any issues with the substandard seating in the POD stand??

Can`t believe you missed out Stevie Cowan!!!😁

I think what hasn't helped the perception of Vogt's start with us for some people is the unusually high early hit rate of the other new signings, i.e. most, if not all of the rest, seem to have settled straight away and have at worst impressed to some degree or even looked real finds. Probably be a few months into the season before things look a bit clearer, for all of them.

Im sure the vast majority of the people who sit in the " new seats" in the pod are not looking for any form of compensation as they would still have to sit in the seats. Personally as an ST holder in the pod all i want is the club to acknowledge that they fecked up big time on this issue and get it sorted ASAP then we can all sit comfortably again.

It is far too early to judge Vogt. Higdon is the obvious example but I could name two more at least who had very uninspiring debuts butwent on to do well with us. Lukas Jutkiewitz ( excuse spelling) Debuted at Aberdeen under Gannon. He was slow looked unfit, the ball kept bouncing off him. Remember how he turned out? Louis Moult Debut at Inverness under Baraclough and looked completely lost. Bullied off the ball, lacking a physical presence. H just looked out his depth. The other debut striker that day impressed more. Was it Wesley Fletcher ? Remember how the two of them turned out?

Let’s hope Vogt develops along the lines of that “useless fat barsteward”Higdon. If anyone can coach him, surely AJ can?

This is looking very bad for Kyrk and the board. It's one easy piece of comms, we hear you, time/money, sorry, discuss some type of discounted season ticket as recompence and remeidal work TBC. Unless there is a big reveal coming this season...🤔

To say Vogt has shown nothing is just confirmation bias kicking in. He started the passage of play that ended with Priestman's penalty. He may or may not be good for us, but he's coming from an entirely different league and has an entirely different background from Hodge or Lowry. Not to mention Lowry has come back home, and Hodge has just moved up the road - and the local language is native to both. It's not as straightforward changing countries and having to operate in your 2nd or 3rd language. However, I'm long past being surprised when fans write off new players after a couple of league appearances. Once we have a settled team and played our first full round of fixtures we'll have a better idea about all the signings.

Have you had any reply from either?

I CAN'T STAND UP I'M FECKIN JAMMED I CAN'T STAND UP I'M FECKIN JAMMEDDDDD

I know it's common sense that players take time to settle, but that applies to all of them and not just WV. I'm sure neither Hodge nor Lowry have shown us everything they're capable of but you can see instantly that they know what they're doing an are decent footballers. Apart from flicking the ball round a defender twice before running on and losing it, Vogt has shown nothing and in fact probably less !! Not greetin' because not every signing can work out but I really can't see him making the grade and getting rid in the next window looks on the cards. From a history point of view, he's coming from a place of a similar standard to like Ayr United. How many players have we signed from the championship who have gone on to shine in the last 15 years ?

Now I understand why they weren't joining in with "stand up and sing for Motherwell"

If we ever manage to get everyone fit, I think we have done a good job in recruiting the new defence.

I think JGR has been great for us. Moormann getting a lot of praise and rightly so but big Jake has been excellent

It is a health and safety hazard at times lucky to avoid fracture moving into middle row as so little room. Nearly broke ankle as got stuck at one point.

And still silence from the Club and Society. Guy in front of me raised the Health and Safety aspect with them. No response. Hell mend them if someone who gets injured sues the arse off them. Plenty of evidence to prove they were made aware of the dangers.

I'm 5ft 11 and for me there's zero leg room and I had difficulty getting to seat in middle row as seats won't fold back. So uncomfortable and feels like your squashed in. Really uncomfortable. Didn't go for half time drink as so difficult to get out.

Yeah thought that was a strange request 🤔🤣

Same story with my sons seat in pod last night, the row in front of me not actually off yet but hanging by a thread. The seats are a sub standard product, badly fitted by the looks of it and not fit for their intended purpose.

I read an interesting article recently about how big number 9s playing through the middle have almost disappeared from the top levels of the game. Most modern coaches have forward (and attacking midfield) players who rotate in and out of attacking positions. I suppose that leads to different models for youngsters too who don't have senior pros to copy. Haaland is probably the exception.

Arsene Wenger was one of the managers who introduced this approach into English football. His philosophy was a good big player was better than a good small player. When you are a team like Arsenal (or Freiburg) you have a deeper pool of options to choose from, so you can apply your sports science and gym work to players who have the raw physical attributes. Gone are the days when you were either a wee tricky dribbler or a big thug of a defender. Now you can be a big thug of a ball player.

Saw guy in front of me Phil O'Donnell stand with the seat in his hands, it had literally come off.

A lot of it is down to fitness, gym work and sports science. When Lennon Miller went to Udinese, they had to work on his physicality. I suppose genetics also play a part. You can't turn a 5'6 player into one who is 6'3.

But remember - no phones because we dont want to be recorded if we do something naughty........