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Butcher 100 percent wasn’t worth the contract offered cause we all know he is done at this level and he is so slow now the only thing he has to offer is a yellow card with the good chance of a suspension. Obika what’s going on with him? With the Ox signing he has been with us years and we still don’t know what we are getting lol it’s mental.

Let's hope you were correct though. If we're offering Butcher terms for actual sporting and football reasons it means a few questions need asked.

To be fair - that was speculation on my part and none of us actually know why Butcher was offered terms.

Let's hope there's a relatively young keeper down south that we can bring up on loan who can do a job for us. As you say, there must be good keepers down south who can't get regular football who would be a better choice than Oxborough or Lewis.

The "giving them the cup game" seems to be popular in England in recent years, at least in the early rounds. I haven't seen so much of it in Scotland, although tbf, I haven't paid much attention to the other squads in those games. The fact the Kelly was the captain probably made him even more immune to being dropped, even in cup matches. I don't remember much about the QoS tie, but I certainly wouldn't put any weight on form in July League Cup games whether it was that draw or the East Fife win where he kept a clean sheet. Gillepsie was destined to remain a 2nd choice keeper for his Motherwell career until Carson was forced out with his deep vein thrombosis, and he turned out OK. I suspect, however, that Oxborough will remain second choice and we'll bring in a first choice later in the summer. Although if that's Joe Lewis it won't be long before he's back in the first team.

Yeah, but usually, decent backup keepers who the club wishes to "keep sweet" are at least given the cup games to play in and so on. Was Oxborough ever given that beyond the first two in the group stages? I don't remember much about him, but didn't he concede three against Queen of the South in his first game last season in the early stages of the cup? I suspected when Kelly was looking like leaving that we'd be downgrading in that position, be it due to financial restrictions or whatever, and it looks likely to be true. Let's hope we can do what we've done in the past and grab a gem from somewhere on the cheap because the suggested combo of Lewis and Oxborough doesn't fill me with confidence.

It's always been the case in football that managers will rarely drop their first choice keeper for dips in form. It doesn't say much, good or bad, about their backup other than being a backup keeper requires a mentality that outfield players don't possess. The plus side of second and third choice keepers struggling to win a starting place is that there are a number of good ones available looking for first team options.

With all the doomsday hints we've been drip fed about our finances these past few months I'm not sure we should be even pretending to do the decent thing. This is a business, and as such we shouldn't be offering to waste money on players who aren't likely to be in the managers plans. The idea of the guy who couldn't get a look-in when Kelly was having his worst season being our new number one gives me the fear. But I think you could be right. Which is exactly why we can't be offering deals to guys simply because it's the decent thing to do, as has been discussed on here already. We need to start becoming more ruthless in that regard. I wonder how any new investor would feel about that? Looking over the books and asks why a player who is hardly fit and never plays is offered a new deal, only to be told it was "the decent thing to do."

No tractor, no truth (or something).

My wife's gone on holiday to Jamaica. Was that her choice? Yes.

I'm sure the usual suspects will be preparing their posts as we speak just in case 🤫

But surely we can start saying that he's shite and a wage thief already?

I knew someone would bite eventually 😂

Jamaica? No, she went of her own accord.

Jakarta? my geography was never great.

It's not official until he's allegedly spotted buying his lunch at upper crust.

Where is Steelboy when you need FACTS from P & B ?.

Both. Seems to be some substance to it, but it is a rumour.

confirmed he's coming here or just confirming he's leaving Raith ?

To be fair Easton looked ok in the playoff game yesterday, Raith were brutal but he was the standout.

Dylan Easton rumours discussed and largely confirmed on Raith P & B thread. You'd imagine PCAs will start to be confirmed after the end of the month. Transfer window opens on 14 June.

Spittal proved to be a great signing and this season particularly was at the heart of everything that was positive. Watching the clips highlights how many assists he got. He's going to be very hard to replace .

Steady that's Grizzly territory you are heading into, no doubt someone will bite.

Here, my wife's gone to the West Indies.

It was a great game, I remember it well. It was gutting that we just missed out on Europe after such a great result, the Rangers had only lost one other league game that season. We had beaten Celtic both at home and away as well but we had some poor results along the way which ultimately cost us in the end.